Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann - Page 31

Lilly · 07-09-2007, 20:00

It has just been said on Sky News that a member of Kate's family has said that Kate was offered a deal by Portugese police to confess to accidentally killing Madeleine and disposing of her body. In return they would guarantee that she would serve no more than 2 years in prison.

Really gives you faith in the police doesn't it?

WillowTheWhisp · 07-09-2007, 20:24

And if she is totally innocent meanwhile a child abductor/abuser/murder goes free?

cashman · 08-09-2007, 00:23

just seen that the Mcanns lawyer has said the father has also been named as a suspect. this seems to be on information passed from the british (Birmingham)the lab, while i find it hard to believe they are guilty, if the portugese were trying to fit them up (as some suspect) i think that 2 countries police forces colluding a hell of a site harder to believe.

Mancie · 08-09-2007, 11:53

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

And if she is totally innocent meanwhile a child abductor/abuser/murder goes free?

It's happened here many times in high profile crimes...Guilford 4, Birmingham 6 (not a football result)..and many times in individual cases, a man found guilty of shooting Jill Dando without any evidence (no witnesses,no murder weapon and no motive).
Seems that when the police are under immense pressure to nail a culprit they will resort to fitting people up.. while the real culprit gets off scot free!

cashman · 08-09-2007, 12:29

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's happened here many times in high profile crimes...Guilford 4, Birmingham 6 (not a football result)..and many times in individual cases, a man found guilty of shooting Jill Dando without any evidence (no witnesses,no murder weapon and no motive).
Seems that when the police are under immense pressure to nail a culprit they will resort to fitting people up.. while the real culprit gets off scot free!

normally i would agree,but when an investigation involves the forces of 2 countries, i think a fit up is too risky.

WillowTheWhisp · 08-09-2007, 15:35

Why should it be unusual for the car to have her DNA though? I mean how strange would it be for the parents to have something in their possession which had the child's DNA? A hair on a garment they hadn't worn since her disappearance for example. Then several days later they wear that garment when using a hire car.

cashman · 08-09-2007, 15:53

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Why should it be unusual for the car to have her DNA though? I mean how strange would it be for the parents to have something in their possession which had the child's DNA? A hair on a garment they hadn't worn since her disappearance for example. Then several days later they wear that garment when using a hire car.

25 days = several? we just dont know --yet.

Lilly · 08-09-2007, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Mancie

It's happened here many times in high profile crimes...Guilford 4, Birmingham 6 (not a football result)..and many times in individual cases, a man found guilty of shooting Jill Dando without any evidence (no witnesses,no murder weapon and no motive).
Seems that when the police are under immense pressure to nail a culprit they will resort to fitting people up.. while the real culprit gets off scot free!

That's what I was trying to say, Mancie.

Ianto.W. · 08-09-2007, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Neil

Is child neglect a crime?

Good point,"would you have left 3 young children to wine and dine yourself?" Watever the outcome of this trsgedy, the Mc Canns are guilty of this, and in my opinion is a disgrace that should haunt them both for ever,I hope.

Acrylic-bob · 08-09-2007, 19:28

There has been something about this whole business which has sat awkwardly with me from the start and I think, in the main, it is the lack of the expected reactions from those involved. The first suspect appeared to be taking all of the acusations in his stride when, if he were innocent and uninvolved, one would normally expect him to be shouting his innocence from the rooftops and demanding that his accusors either put up or shut up. The other thing that puzzles me is the actions and reactions of the parents over the last few months - this is just not normal. A couple who appeared to be less like anxious, grieving parents and more like two people playing a role it would be hard to imagine.

The whole thing was discussed at dinner the other night, chez Acrylic bob, and an elderly relative with a psychic reputation said that when she first saw the picture of the missing child shortly after the story broke in May, she was struck by the overwhelming impression that the child was abused - something in the eyes and the set of the lips, apparently.

I honestly do not know what to think about the situation, but I am certain that we have not yet heard the truth.

flashy · 08-09-2007, 19:34

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...l-30497-3.html

see posts 41 and 42

Mancie · 08-09-2007, 19:38

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

The other thing that puzzles me is the actions and reactions of the parents over the last few months - this is just not normal. A couple who appeared to be less like anxious, grieving parents and more like two people playing a role it would be hard to imagine.

I've quoted this part of Acrylic-bob's post because I've heard this point many times... but what are the "normal" reactions and actions of parents who have their child abducted?.. I don't know because it's never happened to me our anyone I know... so what sort of reaction should we expect?..crying on TV everyday?

Ianto.W. · 08-09-2007, 19:42

I do not thimk we will ever know the truth the suspects have managed to keep silent (if they knew anything) for all this time are highly unlikely to admit anything now. The Keystone Portugese police force have little or no evidence that fact is plainly obvious, this will forever be a mystery to anyone but a few.

Acrylic-bob · 08-09-2007, 19:47

I have to say I am not sure if I could describe what a "normal" reaction might be since such reactions vary in intensity from person to person. But I do feel that the "media blitz" approach is somehow not the thing that one would usually expect - there is something lacking. and it is that imponderable "something" which sets my antenae twitching.

West Ender · 08-09-2007, 20:56

The campaign launched by the family has blown up in their faces. From the start it angered a lot of people because it was manipulated to elicit sympathy and donations to a cause that was not unique. It worked in that it became quite the In Thing to show support, the yellow ribbons etc., and it brought in a lot of money but there were always those who remembered that many children go missing without constant media hype surrounding their cases.

I do not know the McCanns but, from what I've seen of them, I don't like them. He appears to be an arrogant and manipulative man and she seems to go from one extreme to the other in her displays, or not, of emotion. That doesn't mean, however, that I believe they harmed the child. I am no more privvy to any real evidence than anyone else on this site and it's not for me to judge.

The police case against the mother seems implausible to say the least. She is alleged to have killed the child and concealed the body before going for a meal and behaving perfectly normally then faking devastation at finding her "missing". She is then alleged to have kept the corpse hidden for 3 weeks, despite the police asserting that they have made a thorough search of the area, then removed it in a hired car, unseen by the possé of Press who have been in constant attendance. The dead body of the child is said to have deposited blood stains in the car which seems unlikely as, after 3 weeks, I would expect severe decomposition rather than bleeding, particularly in a hot climate.

The Portugese police seem to be following the sentiments of the population and the media. When "sightings" of the child were being reported on a daily basis they were certain the child had been abducted. Next they assumed that Robert Murat had abducted/murdered the child, because a reporter said he was "behaving just like Ian Huntley", and made him the prime suspect. Now that the locals have tired of the McCann circus and hinted that the child has been killed by her parents the police have decided that must be the solution.

I have no idea what the outcome of this case will be. I have thought from the start that the little girl was probably dead and I have found the "Find Madeleine" campaign hysterical and over-hyped but I can only wait to see what further evidence is produced. That's all any of us can do.