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08-05-2007, 09:08
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
We just don't know. We weren't there. We don't know the circumstances which is why I don't think we should be too ready to pass judgement.
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Exactly! Well said Willow
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08-05-2007, 09:13
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
On sky news now the police now saying they are not sure if she will be found alive they say either she has been sold to an adoption racket or a paedophile has taken her! Its not looking good !
Tracey
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08-05-2007, 09:21
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
If it's an adoption racket let's hope she can scream her name loud and clear and that she wants her Mummy.
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08-05-2007, 09:24
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp
My girls are 12 and 15. Last year we left them on the hotel computers whilst we went and did things - or we let them go up to their room alone whilst we stayed by the pool. They were both over 12 but were they safe? Were we negligent?
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You can only make that decision yourself, it depends very much on the girls themselves. I think that at their age you were probably right to do what you did. After all 15 is only 1 year away from being able to leave school, start work and make babies.
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.. I refuse to take part in any kind of castigation for a terrible misjudgement that they will regret for the rest of their lives.
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Fair enough comment Miss T. I can understand why you don't want to comment, it is a very sensitive subject.
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08-05-2007, 13:13
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
i just hope she is safe and well! don,t know what i,d do if that was my little girl sends a chill down my spine everytime its mentioned
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08-05-2007, 13:56
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
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Maybe they had expressed concern at leaving the children to go for a meal. Maybe the hotel staff had reassured them and told them that people do it all the time there and they would be OK. We just don't know. We weren't there. We don't know the circumstances which is why I don't think we should be too ready to pass judgement. My girls are 12 and 15. Last year we left them on the hotel computers whilst we went and did things - or we let them go up to their room alone whilst we stayed by the pool. They were both over 12 but were they safe? Were we negligent?
If it's wrong to leave a child under 12 alone how many parents take their 11 year olds to secondry school and collect them again at 3 o'clock? (or ten past) Does that mean the roads are safer than your own home? People make these sorts of decisions all the time. If an 11 year old is abducted on the way home from school would the parents be to blame?
On the news this morning it sounded like the police were now less hopeful of finding Maddie alive. I hope that they are wrong and that she is found safe.
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12 and 15 is a big differece between 2 and 3 yr old babies, this goes on all the time on holiday and because some people do it doesnt make it right, this is a sad story and i hope it has a happy ending but them children totally depend on their parents for protection and security and they failed, but i know they will be punishing themselves enough for all of us and thats enough.
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08-05-2007, 18:42
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
on skynews you can leave messages of support for Gerry and Kate McCann, the parents of little maddy,
http://skynews.typepad.com/my_weblog....html#comments
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09-05-2007, 15:36
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle
Everyone will have their own opinion on this situation and of course they are entitled to them ..... but some comments in this thread have only just stopped short of the mark of saying this family deserved what happened to them because of a moments misjudgement. That, I'm afraid, makes me very angry.
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Just got back to this Thread after a couple of days and have noted the above.
Am puzzled why it is necessary to comment about opinions -- I feel sure we all ( at least I am ) are aware that we can express an opinion, and I certainly am aware of the footnote we see on Margaret Rothwell`s posts.
I have gone through all postings and cannot find it said that they deserved it -- where is it please?
Opinion:- I can`t believe that anyone doesn`t feel an overwhelming sadness about this tragic event. Even if it turns out that Maddy is safe and is returned to her family, the poor child will inevitably be mentally scarred, at least for a time. And as far as those grieving parents go, hopefully they will pull together, whatever the outcome, for the sake of their other youngsters.
Fact:- They did leave the children locked in a room.
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09-05-2007, 15:54
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
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----- and I certainly am aware of the footnote we see on Margaret Rothwell`s posts.
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I seem to have got that wrong -- I had it in mind that there was a footnote that said words to the effect of not confusing Opinions with Facts.
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09-05-2007, 16:30
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
Still no news of her?
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09-05-2007, 18:56
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
Its very sad, I know reports say the parents are thinking positive, really hope she's found soon.
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09-05-2007, 19:01
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
Maybe it was my signature Owd Bert.
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09-05-2007, 19:10
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
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Originally Posted by panther
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Some very interesting comments isn't there?
It follows along the same lines as this thread. Everyone is terribly worried for the little girl.
Some blame the parents, some don't.
Some even think the parents should be charged with neglect or abandoning the children.
Some are even asking for the blame the parents comments to be removed.
this is one such strong comment
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I'm afraid it was your own fault, what kind of person takes their children on holiday and then goes out to dinner leaving them home alone? Your children are not a nuisance who get in the way and they should never be left unattended. Leaving a three year old with two younger children is an act so irresponsible I can hardly comprehend it.
I hope the poor girl is returned safe and then given to someone who actually deserves her and will look after her properly.
Posted by: David, Newcastle 9 May 2007 12:42:05
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And this is another opinion
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Dear Madeleine's parents,
Don't blame yourselves - you done nothing wrong. Perhaps some one was watching you and your beautiful girl from the beginning of your holiday. May be those people are heartbrocken/troubled parents who saw in your daughter their own child.. Hopefully they will change their minds, and return Maddie to you very soon .
Every time I am looking at my 2 y.o. daughter I am thinking of you and sending you my best wishes.
Please stay strong and positive. Good luck!
xxx Love xxx
Irena
Posted by: Dublin 9 May 2007 12:41:25
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Joyce is not a happy bunny either
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ISN'T IT APPALLING HOW PEOPLE CAN BE SO JUDGEMENTAL AND HURTFUL TO A FAMILY WHO IS GOING THROUGH SUCH A DREADFUL TIME. No compassion is shown to the parents, no regard to the horrendous pain they must be experiencing. Would the self centred, smug individuals who are writing such horrid things on this site ask themselves why they are showing as much disregard to this poor family as the abductor is. What separates YOU from the sick, evil person who has done this? - from where I'm sitting it seems to be very little. YOU ARE PUTTING THE FAMILY THROUGH AS MUCH PAIN BY YOUR WORDS AS THE ABDUCTOR IS BY HIS/HER ACTIONS!
Posted by: Joyce, Manchester 9 May 2007 12:37:11
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09-05-2007, 19:24
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
Ihpoe she is found soon the old lady next door to me as just told me it would be the little girl 4th on saturday,please,please,lord find this little girl we are all praying for her from all over the world for her return
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09-05-2007, 20:00
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re: Missing child in Portugal - Madeleine McCann
Reading those messages brought a lump to my throat as big as the rock of Gibraltar.
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