Missing dog

[Neil]

Originally Posted by accyman

why should a gate be locked anyway its not as though the dog has opposable thumbs and can work the gate ?

Because the owner of the dog should make sure it can't get out, unless they want to pay £70 that is.

[shillelagh]

even though im in rossendale the binmen always leave my gates open when they come and empty my bins ... very rare that they shut them. By the way im on the assisted scheme .. registered disabled.

[Neil]

That's Rossendale for you, maybe they are made of better stuff over here

[forceten]

Originally Posted by Neil

Because the owner of the dog should make sure it can't get out, unless they want to pay £70 that is.

Neil, I have to say that I think you are being a little heartless here.

I used to have a dog (had to have him put to sleep last month as he had cancer and other ailments and his age was against him), and sometimes when people delivered leaflets through my door, they didn't shut the gate on the drive behind them. I've let the dog out, and then had to go after him when he has got out, by thoughtless, selfless people leaving a gate open.

If the gate is shut, and you have to open it to go in, then commensense and good manners say that you shut it when you leave.

If you are disabled, then yes, the binmen will come up your drive and take your bin for you, and then return it to where you left it, but at the same time, if they went through a shut gate, then they should shut it when they go out.

This could have been a child!!

Jae, I do hope that you manage to get your dog back, and if he is at Aspden, then he will be looked after, as that is where I took my dog when I went on holiday, and they are lovely people

[Retlaw]

My backyard door (gate) can't be left open,
I fitted a spring closer over 40 years ago,
its now on its third door (gate).

Retlaw.

[West Ender]

What happens to the dog if the £70 isn't paid? It seems weird, to me, to impound a dog then immediately find out who owns it but refuse to hand it back while, presumably, feeding and housing it. I don't suppose they are as altruistic as the Dogs' Trust who won't "put down" any healthy animal so is an unpaid-for dog condemned? Is there a very bad wandering dog problem or is this merely a source of revenue for the Council?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by forceten

Neil, I have to say that I think you are being a little heartless here..........

sometimes when people delivered leaflets through my door, they didn't shut the gate on the drive behind them. I've let the dog out, and then had to go after him when he has got out, by thoughtless, selfless people leaving a gate open.

I am not being heartless, I said i hope he can get his dog back.

As for you letting your dog go outside without securing your gate you were being a negligent dog owner in my opinion. You dog could have attacked the postman.

Originally Posted by West Ender

Is there a very bad wandering dog problem or is this merely a source of revenue for the Council?

I don't think we have a big problem with strays, just people who let their dogs out on purpose to foul the streets because they are too lazy to walk their dogs and clean up after them.

Did you know in this country 1 child every week goes blind from catching toxocara from dog dirt? That was one of the interesting facts I learnt while chatting with our dog warden the other week.

[forceten]

[quote=Neil;702803]I am not being heartless, I said i hope he can get his dog back.

As for you letting your dog go outside without securing your gate you were being a negligent dog owner in my opinion. You dog could have attacked the postman.

That is your opinion and you are entititled to it. But for the record, I am not and never have been a negligent dog owner. My dog was friends with the postman, and wouldn't have hurt a fly. I knew he was missing within seconds of letting him out, and went after him. This happened twice during the 10 years I had my dog.

And I had secured the gate, it was the irresponsible person who came in the gate after I had shut it and then left it open that was negligent

[Neil]

Originally Posted by forceten

And I had secured the gate, it was the irresponsible person who came in the gate after I had shut it and then left it open that was negligent

Shutting it is not securing it. Securing it would be having it locked so no one could open it.

Stop blaming someone else and just admit it was your fault.

[katex]

I do find there are lots of recriminations here, (bin dying to say this all night, but am a coward)... let's just help the lad to get his dog back then slap him down later or good suggestions for it not happening again as per Retlaw: spring closer etc.

And Neil, the toxocara issue is just a red herring .. could be world wide, etc., etc. not U.K.

[forceten]

So if the gate was locked then how would the postman get up my drive?

I was brought up to shut a gate if I walked in a gate, so maybe my good manners are a fault are they?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by katex

And Neil, the toxocara issue is just a red herring .. could be world wide, etc., etc. not U.K.

He told me that it was 1 child per week in the UK. I was shocked that 52 children each year go blind by something that is preventable by looking after you dog correctly

[Neil]

Originally Posted by forceten

So if the gate was locked then how would the postman get up my drive?

I was brought up to shut a gate if I walked in a gate, so maybe my good manners are a fault are they?

Its not rocket science. If you can't secure the area you allow your dog to be in then don't put it there.

[forceten]

Neil, I find at times your posts are quite patronising and abusive.

I'll let you have the final word on this one, as to be quite honest, I won't lower myself to your standards

[BERNADETTE]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

Wrong, disabled get their bins done by the binmen.

Retlaw.

No need to be pedantic, I am aware that disabled people get assistance but don't think Jay is disabled but am sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.