Missing dog - Page 4

panther · 10-04-2009, 19:29

firstly ..The dog got out because the gate was left open because the binmen came to remove furniture...not bin bags, they should have left the gate shut, it has a handle to shut it, but no they cant be bothered to do that!
secondly the dog got out about 12:15 and was found, i think about 3 hrs later, ...what i dont understand is why they took it straight to the kennels, i thought they took em to the police station first!, noooooo. now this warden wants £70 to get him back!,, which they cant afford...I hope he can sleep at night!!

Royboy39 · 10-04-2009, 20:03

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Originally Posted by panther

firstly ..The dog got out because the gate was left open because the binmen came to remove furniture...not bin bags, they should have left the gate shut, it has a handle to shut it, but no they cant be bothered to do that!
secondly the dog got out about 12:15 and was found, i think about 3 hrs later, ...what i dont understand is why they took it straight to the kennels, i thought they took em to the police station first!, noooooo. now this warden wants £70 to get him back!,, which they cant afford...I hope he can sleep at night!!

Not the wardens fault, it's the system.....rats get away scott free as do some of the garbage that roam the streets in hoods and trackies.
God we need a shake up in values.
If intent cannot be proved a sentence can be reduced from murder to manslaghter....this is a case of....my dog was on my property and was let out by a third party who were allowed onto the property with the owners consent and should have left the property intact as they found it...including dog.

Neil · 10-04-2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by panther

firstly ..The dog got out because the gate was left open because the binmen came to remove furniture..

The reason the dog got out was the owners fault. The gate should be secure before letting the dog out. Shutting it is not secure.

And please can we stop blaming the dog warden for doing his job. His job is to remove stray dogs. A dog on its own is a stray.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-04-2009, 20:14

Changing the focus of the subject to the dog........will Jae be charged for the upkeep of the dog whilst it is in kennels....even though he cannot pay?
Is there any provision for Jae to pay the cost in instalments?

panther · 10-04-2009, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Neil

The reason the dog got out was the owners fault. The gate should be secure before letting the dog out. Shutting it is not secure.

And please can we stop blaming the dog warden for doing his job. His job is to remove stray dogs. A dog on its own is a stray.

Actually the gate had a latch, which can only be opened if ya push the lever, so the gate was shut, only man could open it!

Royboy39 · 10-04-2009, 20:20

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Originally Posted by panther

Actually the gate had a latch, which can only be opened if ya push the lever, so the gate was shut, only man could open it!

Panther....I think you are on a hiding to nothing...Neil has spoken.

panther · 10-04-2009, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Panther....I think you are on a hiding to nothing...Neil has spoken.

YA wanna bet!?!

Royboy39 · 10-04-2009, 20:23

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Originally Posted by panther

YA wanna bet!?!

Go for it Pal.

Neil · 10-04-2009, 20:27

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Originally Posted by panther

Actually the gate had a latch, which can only be opened if ya push the lever, so the gate was shut, only man could open it!

Only man or child. If it can easily be opened it is not secure.

Would you say it was secure if your child opened a gate after getting mixed up on the back street and thought it was his or his friends and ended up being attacked by a dog?

panther · 10-04-2009, 20:27

IMO, the council workers are to blame for not securing the gate, and having to pay £70 for just picking him up is just ridiculous!

Lilly · 10-04-2009, 20:29

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Originally Posted by panther

Actually the gate had a latch, which can only be opened if ya push the lever, so the gate was shut, only man could open it!

That doesn't make it secure though, does it?

I've got to agree with Neil on this one.

I'm glad the dog was has been found and will be reunited with his owner.

It is good manners to close a gate behind you but some people don't.

It is the dog owner's responsibility to ensure the dog can't escape even if the gate is left open.

Neil · 10-04-2009, 20:36

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Originally Posted by panther

.... having to pay £70 for just picking him up is just ridiculous!

Is the £70 a fine for allowing it to escape?

If it is a fine is it high enough?

If the fine was £200 would people be a lot more careful before opening the back door and letting fido wander out to dump on someone else's doorstep. I know that is not the case here or course.

Royboy39 · 10-04-2009, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Lilly

It is the dog owner's responsibility to ensure the dog can't escape even if the gate is left open.

Where is the logic on that one....can we apply that situation on our very secure prison system?

Lilly · 10-04-2009, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Where is the logic on that one....can we apply that situation on our very secure prison system?

Yes, if a prisoner looks likely to escape he will be closely monitored or locked in his cell.

Neil · 10-04-2009, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Where is the logic on that one....can we apply that situation on our very secure prison system?

I have no idea what prison has to do with it.

Are you trying to say the it is not the dog owners responsibility to make sure the dog is not roaming the streets on its own.

If you want to use an analogy - who's fault is it if a parent leaves the front door unlocked at a two year old opens it, runs into the road and is killed by a car.

I suppose you will blame the driver for driving his car on the road