Moat - end of story

[Margaret Pilkington]

John, I didn't say I didn't agree with the majority of opinion.......I echoed the fact that most of us are capable of both good and bad things...the majority of us have morals which moderate the side of us which would indulge in the bad things......however, I think that this man was a victim of the life he chose to lead, that in the pursuit of the macho image, and the hard man facade, he took drugs which may have altered his psyche.

He was a violent man, but that was compounded by the drugs he took to build up muscle.
Also from the things that have been said about his mental state, I am inclined to believe that maybe he was bi-polar too.
None of these things excuse his viloence or the murder he committed.
I abhor the people who are now lionizing him as a hero.

No John, my point is that none of us are all black, or all white......and that the only person who can judge this man, is his maker....and I guess he will be paying a bigger price than prison could ever inflict on him.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

John, I didn't say I didn't agree with the majority of opinion.......I echoed the fact that most of us are capable of both good and bad things...the majority of us have morals which moderate the side of us which would indulge in the bad things......however, I think that this man was a victim of the life he chose to lead, that in the pursuit of the macho image, and the hard man facade, he took drugs which may have altered his psyche.

He was a violent man, but that was compounded by the drugs he took to build up muscle.
Also from the things that have been said about his mental state, I am inclined to believe that maybe he was bi-polar too.
None of these things excuse his violence or the murder he committed.
I abhor the people who are now lionizing him as a hero.

No John, my point is that none of us are all black, or all white......and that the only person who can judge this man, is his maker....and I guess he will be paying a bigger price than prison could ever inflict on him.

I can see your point Margaret, but I'm sure I heard on the news this morning that he had expressed the wishes to see a shrink in prison and actually saw one, who could find nothing wrong with him. but like I've often said all aspects of life are about opinions, and like eyeballs everybody's got them that's what makes the world go round

[Less]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Also from the things that have been said about his mental state, I am inclined to believe that maybe he was bi-polar too.

Bi-polar is a very difficult affliction even for the experts to diagnose, to bandy it around as a lay person on the www, is a tad irresponsible especially when such a sweeping statement could help brand all bi-polar as violent which isn't the case.

"They go into a psychotic state. The individual in a manic state has a great deal of energy, often they go without sleep for long periods of time and many times become extremely aggressive in their thoughts."


But Taylor cautioned people not to be frightened of someone with bipolar disorder who is having a manic episode. Often there is a stubbornness or inability to cooperate, but that doesn't mean the patient will become violent.

Bipolar patients can become violent, prof says

[Margaret Pilkington]

Less, I know that Bi-polar is difficult to diagnose...and I did put in bold that little word maybe...I didn't say he was bipolar, nor did i suggest that the condition of being Bi-polar would make him violent, but it would account for his self confessed mood swings.
Now, who is to say that he hadn't read DSM whilst in prison and read up the symptoms of the condition, so that if an when he did see a specialist he could rhyme off the symptoms. I don't know...no-one does.
It is all conjecture......and something that we are never going to know...and in any case it would not now alter the outcome.

[cashman]

see on the the news tonight, the stupid cow that put his tribute on facebook, has withdrawn the page n her mate was on apologising fer her, n guess what? SHE WAS A DINGLE.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

see on the the news tonight, the stupid cow that put his tribute on facebook, has withdrawn the page n her mate was on apologising fer her, n guess what? SHE WAS A DINGLE.

Read the story about it in the LET, the best part was the readers comments post below

[Restless]

she probably supports bnp too