Mother condemns BNP's heroin leaflet

[mani]

the bnp DOES have some valid points on the agenda which the main parties arent addressing

but it does have some scary points too which is why they're on the edge.

everyone complains about the lack of jobs and how the polish have taken their jobs etc

which skilled well paid jobs HAVE they taken? there are jobs out there but there's a percentage of the unemployed who think its their god given right to have a total awesome job where they can chill out and be paid well. they dont want to put the graft in simple as.

[Less]

Originally Posted by onlyme

I dont describe myself as racist, homophobic, and try not tto discriminate against any body of people whatsoever. In fact I was extremely anti-BNP for many a year,

HOWEVER

I do agree with a lot of the points they are now making about looking after our country and our people, and to re-prioritise funding. The fact that they seem to be the only party that would make a REAL difference to the Pensioners of this country can only be commended.

Yes they have more radical views, I think if they eliminated those, and went with the majority of the public opinion regarding race and so on, they would be a major force to deal with.

And I really do think the government should look to them as real competition and take on board the fact that our country is going down the cr*pper whilst we are busy helping the rest of the world out

That's my boy, just give in a little at a time, to their propaganda and all of a sudden once they get a real toe hold into our political life watch not just the freedom of immigrants but the freedom of everyone shoot down the pan!
We are told that there is a war to be faught against terrorism, o.k. I don't want someone black, brown, green or blue over here blowing up innocents of any background.

But we also have to be careful not to go down what may appear to be an easy solution to this, blame my neighbour, that is all that the BNP does, there's a problem, oh it's the blacks, here's another problem, oh, it's the browns.

Hitler managed to convince a whole nation it was someone else's fault it's the easy path to take, let them in with promises for the elderly the poor downtrodden 'working class', white man, then when these evil minds have finished with those prejudices it will be so much easier for them to start on other's. The old don't contribute anything, the unemployed don't contribute anything let's send them the way we sent the others, after all now that we have power who can stop us?

I support no political party but if I was to sit down and take a good look at all of them the BNP are about the only one that I would fear not just for my life but for the lives of all ordinary people.

Of all racial backgrounds.

[Bonnyboy]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

BUT the main point at issue here as far as I can see from the opening post as I did not see the story on 5 Live, is that the mother of a girl who died as the result of a drugs overdose has objected to the use of the image of her dead body for a purpose which she did not authorise. I would agree with her. She permitted the use of that image in order to get across to other drug users the danger of something which could result in them ending up the same. She did not authorise it for use in a campaign against Islam.

Agree Willow, don’t think I would have been happy if it was my daughter.

Think most of us have seen the picture. A very personal picture too. I don’t think I would be gracious enough to let it be used for any purpose had I been a parent and I’d be well angry if some muppet had used it for political gain.

[cashman]

the mother certainly has a right to be very angry, personally i aint surprised at ANYTHING the BNP resort to, the only people that may be are the retards that swallow their garbage. ( see neil i like it as well)

[blazey]

She has every right to be disgusted when it was her daughters picture being used without her permission. It doesn't matter what the purpose, its still not right to just use a persons photograph, even in the nicest of ways or a normal picture of a person.

The fact that the BNP is blaming muslims for the drug culture doesnt surprise me, but I have a friend friends who do drugs an the majority of their dealers are white chavs who also deal in heavier drugs, whilst the one muslim drug dealer they use is a really nice guy and only deals in cannabis, and whilst the law is the law and you cant justify drugs, I would rather have the asian guy dealing his drugs than the white british guys...

You also wouldn't find many muslims doing hard drugs themselves, and most definately girls wouldn't do drugs at all apart from the odd one, where as there are a lot more white guys and girls selling drugs and using them in my experience of our local drug culture. Anyone who falls for this kind of tactic by the BNP really should think twice before they lay the blame on another culture or country.

Yes most drugs come from abroad, but they come here because of the demand and they're more often spread around by people you wouldn't expect. It wouldn't surprise me if a few of the older people on the forum had a friend of a friend who could get them a bit of wacky backy for their aching joints and such if they were in desperate need.

I personally think some drugs are fine in your own homes causing no problems to anyone else, it's the pushers who entice the children with them outside schools and things that are the main problem, offering free samples so the kids get hooked and then do what they can to buy more. Its a sad world.

[onlyme]

Originally Posted by Less

That's my boy, just give in a little at a time, to their propaganda and all of a sudden once they get a real toe hold into our political life watch not just the freedom of immigrants but the freedom of everyone shoot down the pan!
We are told that there is a war to be faught against terrorism, o.k. I don't want someone black, brown, green or blue over here blowing up innocents of any background.

But we also have to be careful not to go down what may appear to be an easy solution to this, blame my neighbour, that is all that the BNP does, there's a problem, oh it's the blacks, here's another problem, oh, it's the browns.

Hitler managed to convince a whole nation it was someone else's fault it's the easy path to take, let them in with promises for the elderly the poor downtrodden 'working class', white man, then when these evil minds have finished with those prejudices it will be so much easier for them to start on other's. The old don't contribute anything, the unemployed don't contribute anything let's send them the way we sent the others, after all now that we have power who can stop us?

I support no political party but if I was to sit down and take a good look at all of them the BNP are about the only one that I would fear not just for my life but for the lives of all ordinary people.

Of all racial backgrounds.

What I am saying is if you look past that area of their manifesto, they come have some valid ideas. Of course this may be me 'giving in a little at a time to their propaganda', or maybe it could just be me looking at the whole picture and thinking' yes i agree with that', or 'no thats cr*p'.

If i was completely comfortable with the BNP offering, I would have voted for them by now. However I havent, but we cannot ignore the fact that they are probably one of the fastest growing political groups in this country, and should ask why?

The race of drug dealers is as irrelevant, as what they deal. These people are breaking the law and endangering the lives of children, be it by dealing the drugs, or in fact ruining their lives by user parents. Shouldnt matter if the dealers are black, blue, red whatever.


Until the BNP can get rid of their race-related points of view, I will never vote for them, but only hope that our present government will look at some items on their agenda and take them on board. However, until the people of this country are happy with the treatment of the elderly, the distribution of central funds and so one, the BNP will continue to grow.

[onlyme]

Oh and thanks for the negative karma

At least I have the guts to put my name to my opinion

And if you had read my posts properly, maybe you would have read that I am not a supporter of the BNP, and not even a voter of them, purely that I agree with some of their non race related posts.

So much for freedom of speech eh?

[entwisi]

Originally Posted by mani

the irony of the situation is that opium production was at its lowest during the taleban as they enforced a policy to wipe out the opium trade in afganistan as per islam

they wud punish harshly any farmers growing opium which was then reversed once the americans and british took over.

Absolutely! Yet another 'improvement' brought to the world couresy of GWB and TB.

Another interesting fact is that we spend more on trying to catch drug dealers and treating drug addicts than it would cost to buy teh total output of Afganistan. Now to me simple econommics means buy teh stuff to destroy it and you have paid farmers a decent wage and taken teh product off teh market, would they grow more? next year maybe.. it would give us a year to 'encourage them to grow useful crops like food for the middleeastern and African countries where people are starving

[entwisi]

Originally Posted by blazey

I personally think some drugs are fine in your own homes causing no problems to anyone else, it's the pushers who entice the children with them outside schools and things that are the main problem, offering free samples so the kids get hooked and then do what they can to buy more. Its a sad world.

Cuts n pastes that for future bribery when Blazey is a top lawyer

[Boeing Guy]

Havin just read the BNP manifesto, can someone tell me whats good about it???? Their is no way on Gods earth that if they got into power they could implement some of those idea's, Income tax lowered but raising spending?????
I am EBGLISH and proud to say so, I will even fly a Union Jack (sod the name flag) I refer to GMT rather than the now polictally correct UTC. But I will not be parry to what the BNP say, it is Fasisim pure and simple, there is no sense in what they say, just like the communist party. madness, pure madness.

People have a choice, they choose to try drugs and do them, they are aware of the dangers. If you smoke you know you are doing yourself no good but you still go on, should we get rid of the tobacco farms????

[jaysay]

I abhor the BNP and all they stand for. As some who, in the past, wrote letters to the press on a regular basis, which left no-one in doubt that my politics were right of centre, I was once targeted by the BNP. It was 1993 in fact it was 2nd of April to be exact, how do I remember, I picked up my post on he way in from atteding my Mothers funeral. as you can imagine I was not in the best of moods at the time, but when I got this rubbish in my mail, the language was choice to say the least. After thinking about a responce, I decided to contact Greg Pope, I rang the Labour office and as luck would have it Greg himself answered the phone. The upshot was that there was an article appeared in the Observer, highlighting the I had joined forces with Greg to condemn this literature. I have never recieved anything else from the BNP

[garinda]

Originally Posted by onlyme

What I am saying is if you look past that area of their manifesto, they come have some valid ideas.

Those little sweetners, such as more rights for (white) pensioners, are there as a smoke screen. Do you really think this bunch of in-fighting morons have enough brains between them to manage the economy, for instance?

They may have realised, since their days when they were the National Front, that to attract those disillusioned with mainstream political parties, they need to appear more appealing than they did previously, but when you read their aims beyond the blurb, they still want the repatriation of non-whites, the recriminalising and imprisonment of homosexuals, as well as their political opponents.

Dress it up as they might, they still have more in common with German nazism, than anything else. Which is ironic really, for a group of people that supposedly celebrate Britishness.

[Loz]

I cannot stand the BNP and any time anything comes through the door from them it goes straight in the bin.
I think it is disgraceful but not surprising that they used this picture without permission for their own gains.
I have read their manifesto and yes if you glance through you may find yourself agreeing with a couple of points but if you read it as a collective you quickly realise that if they were ever to get into power we are all in serious trouble.
Their is a big difference between returning British culture and out and out racism and imo thats what the BNP are all about.
Please people don't fall for this crap.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Those little sweetners, such as more rights for (white) pensioners, are there as a smoke screen. Do you really think this bunch of in-fighting morons have enough brains between them to manage the economy, for instance?

They may have realised, since their days when they were the National Front, that to attract those disillusioned with mainstream political parties, they need to appear more appealing than they did previously, but when you read their aims beyond the blurb, they still want the repatriation of non-whites, the recriminalising and imprisonment of homosexuals, as well as their political opponents.

Dress it up as they might, they still have more in common with German nazism, than anything else. Which is ironic really, for a group of people that supposedly celebrate Britishness.

The National Front started in th sixties and was more or less centred around Blackburn, their then leader lived in Blackburn I think his name was Kingsley Reid although I am not 100% sure, but if I'm wrong there will be some one to put me right. Since those days their modern day counterparts the BNP are far more radical, as some TV programs have proved, they also inclued groups like combat 18 a neonazi gang of numpties who tend to be more London based and are synonymous with football violence

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

The National Front started in th sixties and was more or less centred around Blackburn, their then leader lived in Blackburn I think his name was Kingsley Reid although I am not 100% sure, but if I'm wrong there will be some one to put me right. Since those days their modern day counterparts the BNP are far more radical, as some TV programs have proved, they also inclued groups like combat 18 a neonazi gang of numpties who tend to be more London based and are synonymous with football violence

..and the local leader of the National Front in the seventies, now runs a bookshop in Oswaldtwistle.

Lets hope his political ideals have mellowed over time.