Mother condemns BNP's heroin leaflet

mani · 10-03-2008, 17:39

i was listening to 5live last night and this story came up where they had the vice pres of the bnp on and the family of the girl and the bnp refused to withdraw the leaflet or apologise as the pic was in the public domain and they could use it as they wanted without the parents permission

what do you folks make of it?? has anyone seen the leaflet?

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THE parents of a heroin overdose victim have condemned a British National Party-backed leaflet blaming Muslims for the drugs trade.

Hundreds of homes in Burnley, Pendle and Preston received the leaflets, which have been condemned by political leaders in Lancashire.

Now the parents of Rachel Whitear, who died in Devon from a heroin overdose in 2000, have condemned the BNP for using a picture of their dead daughter on the leaflet.

Her mother Pauline Holcroft approved the use of the image, which shows Rachel's corpse slumped with a syringe in her hand, as part of posters for hard-hitting anti-drugs initiatives.

But she has confirmed that she was never asked for permission to use the picture in connection with the BNP leaflet, which was produced by Preston lecturer Tony Bamber, and backed by party members John Rowe and Brian Norton Parker.

Mrs Holcroft, from Ledbury, Hertfordshire, said: "I was truly horrified when I saw what they'd done with it.

jaysay · 10-03-2008, 17:48

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Originally Posted by mani

i was listening to 5live last night and this story came up where they had the vice pres of the bnp on and the family of the girl and the bnp refused to withdraw the leaflet or apologise as the pic was in the public domain and they could use it as they wanted without the parents permission

what do you folks make of it?? has anyone seen the leaflet?

One only has to remember the leaflet that was in the public domain and cost the local Tories £7000 for copying it to know where this one can go

Acrylic-bob · 10-03-2008, 17:54

Isn't this a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted? And as for the leaflet; isn't 90% of the worlds heroin produced in Afghanistan? And isn't Afghanistan a Muslim country? Who else would you blame, the Welsh?

mani · 10-03-2008, 18:07

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

isn't 90% of the worlds heroin produced in Afghanistan? And isn't Afghanistan a Muslim country? Who else would you blame, the Welsh?

seems to be american and british these days!

*L*

WillowTheWhisp · 10-03-2008, 18:13

I think there are two issues here - or maybe three.

First of all it may very well be true that 90% of the world's heroine is produced in a Muslim country but does that automatically mean that drug production is approved of by Islam. (look at our country's record of teenage pregnancies - is that approved of by the Church of England?)

Secondly (which is connected to the first point) if people did not use drugs then there would be no demand for them - but perhaps that should be more directed to the drug pushers who get people hooked in the first place.

BUT the main point at issue here as far as I can see from the opening post as I did not see the story on 5 Live, is that the mother of a girl who died as the result of a drugs overdose has objected to the use of the image of her dead body for a purpose which she did not authorise. I would agree with her. She permitted the use of that image in order to get across to other drug users the danger of something which could result in them ending up the same. She did not authorise it for use in a campaign against Islam.

steeljack · 10-03-2008, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Isn't this a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted? And as for the leaflet; isn't 90% of the worlds heroin produced in Afghanistan? And isn't Afghanistan a Muslim country? Who else would you blame, the Welsh?

The most insane thing about this is that it is being done with the connivence of both the British and American Govts, I sure both the RAF and the USAF each have equipment available to wipe out opium production in less than a month , why hasn't it been used ? ........lame ass excuses from politicians about "the poor farmers will starve and little afghan babies will go hungry" cuts no ice with me , an opium grower is no different than a street corner dealer....both are vermin and should be eradicated and if that means hungry little afghan babies dont grow up to be the next generation of opium growers so be it .

mani · 10-03-2008, 18:51

the irony of the situation is that opium production was at its lowest during the taleban as they enforced a policy to wipe out the opium trade in afganistan as per islam

they wud punish harshly any farmers growing opium which was then reversed once the americans and british took over.

jaysay · 10-03-2008, 18:53

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Originally Posted by steeljack

The most insane thing about this is that it is being done with the connivence of both the British and American Govts, I sure both the RAF and the USAF each have equipment available to wipe out opium production in less than a month , why hasn't it been used ? ........lame ass excuses from politicians about "the poor farmers will starve and little afghan babies will go hungry" cuts no ice with me , an opium grower is no different than a street corner dealer....both are vermin and should be eradicated and if that means hungry little afghan babies dont grow up to be the next generation of opium growers so be it .

I have to say steeljack I totally agree with you, about poor farmers starving, and babies will be hungry, its our kids they are killing for heavens sake.

Neil · 10-03-2008, 19:03

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Originally Posted by jaysay

One only has to remember the leaflet that was in the public domain and cost the local Tories £7000 for copying it to know where this one can go

But that one was at least funny and showed that some politicians have a sense of humour. There is a thread about it on here somewhere.

cashman · 10-03-2008, 20:28

whilst i agree with manis comment,also steeljacks, to me the main point of the thread is our in-house vermin the BNP. and what saddens me is many can,t or won't see the dangers of them, and also our Lab/Con/Lib Mps are to blame for their prominence, cos they Refuse to take on board whats causing em to flourish. Enoch Powell did and was drummed out of his party, if anyone watched "Rivers Of Blood" the other night, it was as clear as daylight the man was right, where he slipped up was how he phrased it.

onlyme · 10-03-2008, 20:35

I dont describe myself as racist, homophobic, and try not tto discriminate against any body of people whatsoever. In fact I was extremely anti-BNP for many a year,

HOWEVER

I do agree with a lot of the points they are now making about looking after our country and our people, and to re-prioritise funding. The fact that they seem to be the only party that would make a REAL difference to the Pensioners of this country can only be commended.

Yes they have more radical views, I think if they eliminated those, and went with the majority of the public opinion regarding race and so on, they would be a major force to deal with.

And I really do think the government should look to them as real competition and take on board the fact that our country is going down the cr*pper whilst we are busy helping the rest of the world out

Neil · 10-03-2008, 20:42

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Originally Posted by cashman

whilst i agree with manis comment,also steeljacks, to me the main point of the thread is our in-house vermin the BNP. and what saddens me is many can,t or won't see the dangers of them....

You only need to look back to 1930's Germany to understand why these type of parties get control

cashman · 10-03-2008, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Neil

You only need to look back to 1930's Germany to understand why these type of parties get control

i think we are both well aware of that fact,along with many people, its the clowns that govern (both parties) that do not seem to,or choose to ignore.

Neil · 10-03-2008, 21:04

I really can see something happening like that in the UK, hopefully it wont be quite as extreme.

onlyme · 10-03-2008, 21:21

The BNP is not just about racism. It has a number of valid points on its agenda.

If the voting public were happy about the way the current government were running the country, and didnot feel discriminated against, there would be a lot less racism. If there were jobs, people wouldnt complain about the polish being employed; if there were more money, people would be more open to the immigration policy; if our country felt like out own as oppose to an the 52nd state of America, everyone would have their pride back