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29-04-2008, 20:02
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by garinda
Now I don't want you to have a funny turn, but...
I've just had another leaflet posted through my door re: Thursday's elections.
In big bold letters it announces 'the most expensive council in Britain'. Informing us that the Daily Telegraph has put Hyndburn at No. 1 spot as being the most expensive concil in Britain, and gives the source in brackets being from March 2008/8.1% income.
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Well if Labour want to deceive people then that just shows how low they're having to go to get votes in this election doesn't it!
I do hope they get a punishing at the polls for it. Shouldn't be treating people like idiots!
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29-04-2008, 20:45
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Re: mr britcliffe
Isn't the Daily Telegraph one of the most 'Tory' newspapers in the country?
So why are Labour deceiving people if they're repeating something that Tories have said?
Just wondering?
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29-04-2008, 21:12
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by Gayle
Isn't the Daily Telegraph one of the most 'Tory' newspapers in the country?
So why are Labour deceiving people if they're repeating something that Tories have said?
Just wondering?
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Is it this that we are talking about?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/...northwestC.xml
It looks quite deceiving to me because on the one hand it has been said that we have the most expensive council tax in Britain. This sounds quite shocking.
However, when I read the link, it shows the council tax as a percentage of wages in Hyndburn and compares the two.
Would this not make the council tax look high because wages in this area are low?
If you look at the figures we have one of the lowest wages.
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29-04-2008, 21:31
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by Gayle
Isn't the Daily Telegraph one of the most 'Tory' newspapers in the country?
So why are Labour deceiving people if they're repeating something that Tories have said?
Just wondering?
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When you actually look at where the figures are from you realise exactly why Hyndburn looks high and why the figures are not an accurate reflection. This has been explained to the Labour group leader on this very website. Even if you were to believe the figures were accurate, the newest article (ie not the old one the Labour leaflet is sourcing) has a list of top 10 most expensive councils which doesn't mention Hyndburn once.
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29-04-2008, 21:41
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Re: mr britcliffe
well its the kettle calling the pan here i reckon cyfr.
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29-04-2008, 21:53
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by cashman
well its the kettle calling the pan here i reckon cyfr.
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I am happy you're not trying to defend Labours deceptiveness. Good on you.
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29-04-2008, 22:07
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by Cyfr
I am happy you're not trying to defend Labours deceptiveness. Good on you.
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hey mate when its crap to me,i say so whomever it happens to be.
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29-04-2008, 22:08
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by cashman
hey mate when its crap to me,i say so whomever it happens to be.
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As do I. I'm glad we've cleared this up! If only you could be a bit more vocal about Labour treating the voters like idiots with this latest rubbish about council tax!
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29-04-2008, 22:27
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by Cyfr
As do I. I'm glad we've cleared this up! If only you could be a bit more vocal about Labour treating the voters like idiots with this latest rubbish about council tax!
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OK 60% duty on fuel plus vat on total......where has all the money gone?
Means testing on pensions............where has all the money gone?
Stupid fines on utilities.........where has all the money gone?
Overseas Aid......where has all the money gone?
100% hike on basic rate of tax......where has all the money gone?
MP expenses......where has all the money gone?
Banks bailed out....this would not happen to other industries....we know where the money has gone and when do we get it back?
Bull****...Bull**** and even more.
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30-04-2008, 00:01
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by Cyfr
I am happy you're not trying to defend Labours deceptiveness. Good on you.
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I think it's just that Labour have been a bit more successful at putting the spin on the information than you have.
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30-04-2008, 07:54
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by garinda
I think it's just that Labour have been a bit more successful at putting the spin on the information than you have.
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Indeed it appears its one thing they're very good at!
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30-04-2008, 09:15
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by Cyfr
Indeed it appears its one thing they're very good at!
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I think you've got that one wrong Cyfr, it the only thing they are good at
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30-04-2008, 17:23
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Re: mr britcliffe
In fact the figures they source are from before January 2007 not March 2008. A complete misrepresentation. Complete lies. It's a disgrace.
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30-04-2008, 23:51
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Re: mr britcliffe
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In fact the figures they source are from before January 2007 not March 2008. A complete misrepresentation. Complete lies. It's a disgrace.
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Perhaps this interesting fact was also reprinted in the Daily Telegraph in March.
Whatever, my old boss reads the Telegraph, and I'm expecting a food hamper from Fortnum and Mason any day now.
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01-05-2008, 00:17
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Re: mr britcliffe
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Originally Posted by garinda
Perhaps this interesting fact was also reprinted in the Daily Telegraph in March.
Whatever, my old boss reads the Telegraph, and I'm expecting a food hamper from Fortnum and Mason any day now.
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Doubt it! They had an article in april 2008 about top 10 most expensive councils and Hyndburn wasn't there at all, surprisingly enough! Strong manipulation of the public going on here. Very unhappy bunny sat here!
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