mr britcliffe - Page 5

garinda · 25-04-2008, 22:40

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Can you please let me have the figures for the expensive rent/rates you talk of?

In a word no.

Do it yourself.

A quick search on any local commercial estate agent's site will prove my point.

Lancsdave posted the other week of the extortionate rent wanted for one empty retail unit in the Arndale, if you care to search through his posts.

onlyme · 25-04-2008, 22:44

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Originally Posted by garinda

It may not feel like it but even here in Hyndburn we've never had such a large disposable income.

Thirty five years ago the majority of people in Hyndburn didn't own a car. Now we have two car households, and many people, even those on benefits, have homes filled with the latest flat screened televisions, and all manor of electrical equipment.

Sadly much of this income is being spent in Hyndburn.

I know what you mean, however I think credit has become easier, or more socially acceptable and its easier to buy these things, just harder to pay for them. I also think there is more peer pressure or 'keeping up with the Joneses' these days, and so people get upto their neck in debt, and so normal everyday buying suffers.

I am no huge political fan or take great interest in facts and figures, but would be interesting to know the %age difference between unemployed 10 years ago compared to now

andrewb · 25-04-2008, 22:52

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Originally Posted by garinda

In a word no.

Do it yourself.

A quick search on any local commercial estate agent's site will prove my point.

Lancsdave posted the other week of the extortionate rent wanted for one empty retail unit in the Arndale, if you care to search through his posts.

Lets take the arndale example: £25,440 for the year.

Retailers, even in Accrington, have had turnover more than £10,000 in a day. Is the rent really that expensive when you look at it like that?

katex · 25-04-2008, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Lilly

There may be some of us who would spend our money in an Accrington branch of Next or River Island but it seems we are in the minority.

Seemingly, the council did ask Next if they were interested in our town Lilly, but they turned us down (for the time being), probably holding out to see if anything moves on the proposed retail park at Whitebirk.... only my assumptions here though.

Don't think us Next/River Island/Oasis/Warehouse/Jane Norman buyers are in the minority at all. Now acquiring a large immigrant population, and they love these high street stores. Once they are there .. people will buy. Unfortunately, the Council members are not sales people, and do not know how to put forward a decent proposal.

Neil · 25-04-2008, 22:59

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Originally Posted by garinda

If polled I wonder how many of the people actually living in Hyndburn would rate the quality of services provided by the council as being 'excellent'?

The problem is knowing which Council is responsible for the service in question. My bins are always emptied which is HBC. The roads are in a very poor state which is LCC. The park is in a mess which is HBC, the trouble with that one is it has been in a mess for so long which Council was in power when it went down hill? Labour or Tory, I am not sure. We just blame HBC for things which means the Tories at the moment.

garinda · 25-04-2008, 23:01

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Originally Posted by katex

the Council members are not sales people, and do not know how to put forward a decent proposal.

That's a very important point.

We give massive budgets to people with no proven record in the commercial world, when really a lot of them would struggle to use an Etch A Sketch, never mind plan a long term retail stategy for the area.

Royboy39 · 25-04-2008, 23:03

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Originally Posted by garinda

That's a very important point.

We give massive budgets to people with no proven record in the commercial world, when really a lot of them would struggle to use an Etch A Sketch, never mind plan a long term retail stategy for the area.

OK....I accept that......put your name forward for council?

garinda · 25-04-2008, 23:04

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Originally Posted by Neil

The problem is knowing which Council is responsible for the service in question. My bins are always emptied which is HBC. The roads are in a very poor state which is LCC. The park is in a mess which is HBC, the trouble with that one is it has been in a mess for so long which Council was in power when it went down hill? Labour or Tory, I am not sure. We just blame HBC for things which means the Tories at the moment.

I'm well aware that although our council is presently Conservative run, it is made up of councillors of all parties. Many of whom are more intent on squabbling with each other rather than working together for the good of the borough.

Neil · 25-04-2008, 23:05

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Originally Posted by garinda

We give massive budgets to people with no proven record in the commercial world, when really a lot of them would struggle to use an Etch A Sketch, never mind plan a long term retail stategy for the area.

I have said that many times, well not the etch a sketch bit.

I will tell you a story when I see you next about a Councillor - remind me

garinda · 25-04-2008, 23:06

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Originally Posted by Neil

I have said that many times, well not the etch a sketch bit.

I will tell you a story when I see you next about a Councillor - remind me

Oh goodie.

It's not like you to spill the political beans...well not many.

andrewb · 25-04-2008, 23:08

Me too Rindi, remind me

Royboy39 · 25-04-2008, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

OK....I accept that......put your name forward for council?

I forgot....I'm on his No No list

Rindy for council ?????

onlyme · 25-04-2008, 23:12

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Originally Posted by katex

Seemingly, the council did ask Next if they were interested in our town Lilly, but they turned us down (for the time being), probably holding out to see if anything moves on the proposed retail park at Whitebirk.... only my assumptions here though.

Don't think us Next/River Island/Oasis/Warehouse/Jane Norman buyers are in the minority at all. Now acquiring a large immigrant population, and they love these high street stores. Once they are there .. people will buy. Unfortunately, the Council members are not sales people, and do not know how to put forward a decent proposal.

Exactly and the point can be carried on to so many other things. Public sector should be run as a business, with sales, marketing and all that mullarkey. The sooner local government start doing that, and looking to make money the better

onlyme · 25-04-2008, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

I forgot....I'm on his No No list

Rindy for council ?????

Have to admit, I would actually probably vote for Rindy, even if I disagree with his opinion, I can at least understand where its coming from.

Besides, he doesnt waffle which i feel is a real pre-requisite for my all important vote lol

garinda · 25-04-2008, 23:14

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Me too Rindi, remind me

Since I'll be seeing you at the theatre tomorrow you can spill your dirt before Neil tells me his gossip re: a councillor.