mr britcliffe - Page 8

katex · 27-04-2008, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Even at £2,000 from an industry in decline, that's £730,000 a year on average without taking Christmas takings into account. Rent at £25,000 isn't that much is it? Was music zone rent even as much as that?

Lindsay only talking about turn over here Cyfr .. lot different to profit.

andrewb · 27-04-2008, 21:56

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Originally Posted by cashman

yer correct it was 25k fer that (box) that used to be Cryers,sure rent is based on area of the premises, also sure cyfr is aware of that also, reckon hes trying damned hard to make a name fer himself, well on the way also.

Not trying to make a name for myself, especially in this thread because I don't have the facts to hand. I ain't going to argue it really passionately either way, I'm just offering some alternative thinking, it may be that rent is high and I'd accept that once I've seen some proper evidence of it.

I thought music zone made a profit too by the way? (to lindsey)

andrewb · 27-04-2008, 21:57

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Originally Posted by katex

Lindsay only talking about turn over here Cyfr .. lot different to profit.

Yeah I know that's why I'm not arguing it passionately. I don't have the profit figures, or what I'd really want if I was to strongly argue either way, a breakdown of cost.

andrewb · 27-04-2008, 21:58

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Originally Posted by garinda

Can I ask why your father decided to leave his large town centre retail premises, and just concentrate on his market stall?

Any connection to costs?

The shops were owned and he left due to the semi-retirement of my uncle and grandad (since now they only work market days as opposed to 6 days a week).

Royboy39 · 27-04-2008, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Very comparable! Lots of money exchange hands with NHS prescriptions!

Even at £2,000 from an industry in decline, that's £730,000 a year on average without taking Christmas takings into account. Rent at £25,000 isn't that much is it? Was music zone rent even as much as that?

Good God Lad you have a lot to learn.
25 grand is a hell of a lot of money and Rates on top of that takes a lot of earning...add to that employees wages,insurance,tax and the other expenses which are incured in running a business make you wonder why you dont work for someone else and not risk your own money.

10 Grand a day is fantasy....maybe to Asda...Yes.
get some of your fellow students to go round traders and ask the right questions of the traders and you will learn how hard it is to run a business.
When you get into the real world people will tell you....forget all that was taught at college....forget the advice from people who have never lost money running a business and don't be swayed by political bullsh1t.

garinda · 27-04-2008, 22:03

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Originally Posted by katex

'Many a true word spoken in jest' .. always plenty of repeat customers in this game. Hey, Garinda ... am bored .. perhaps we could go 50/50 .. one in Ossy, one in Clayton. Am I joking ? not quite sure..

Nevermind us setting up in business going into competition with Accy's legal brothel, how do you fancy opening up an illegal cigarette smoking den?

A place where like minded adults could meet up and indulge in their vice with others.

garinda · 27-04-2008, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

The shops were owned and he left due to the semi-retirement of my uncle and grandad (since now they only work market days as opposed to 6 days a week).

Thanks for answering.

Though I presume the overheads are a hell of a lot smaller for a market stall, rather than a rented double fronted shop in the town centre.

katex · 27-04-2008, 22:09

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Originally Posted by garinda

Nevermind us setting up in business going into competition with Accy's legal brothel, how do you fancy opening up an illegal cigarette smoking den?

A place where like minded adults could meet up and indulge in their vice with others.

Eeew you are naughty .. but I like it...

Perhaps we could offer those cocktail cigarettes with flourescent wrappers .. they were cool ....

andrewb · 27-04-2008, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Good God Lad you have a lot to learn.
25 grand is a hell of a lot of money and Rates on top of that takes a lot of earning...add to that employees wages,insurance,tax and the other expenses which are incured in running a business make you wonder why you dont work for someone else and not risk your own money.

10 Grand a day is fantasy....maybe to Asda...Yes.
get some of your fellow students to go round traders and ask the right questions of the traders and you will learn how hard it is to run a business.
When you get into the real world people will tell you....forget all that was taught at college....forget the advice from people who have never lost money running a business and don't be swayed by political bullsh1t.

I'm aware it's hard to run a business, in fact the majority of businesses fail in the first year. The 10 grand was at Christmas. I never claimed that it was every day.

andrewb · 27-04-2008, 22:17

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Originally Posted by garinda

Thanks for answering.

Though I presume the overheads are a hell of a lot smaller for a market stall, rather than a rented double fronted shop in the town centre.

And an awful lot less can be done from a market stall like deliveries, funeral orders, weddings etc, which as you can appreciate are worth a considerable income. I'm 100% sure the overheads are less, but the retail space and everything else that contributes means you take in less money. But anyway, I assure you it was because they were semi-retiring.

andrewb · 27-04-2008, 22:19

Ugh, in addition (in regards to the 25k rent) I don't think anyones come up with the alternative figures of cost breakdown to show that 25k is a lot for rent. So neither argument is any more correct.

katex · 27-04-2008, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Cyfr

Ugh, in addition (in regards to the 25k rent) I don't think anyones come up with the alternative figures of cost breakdown to show that 25k is a lot for rent. So neither argument is any more correct.

Well, no Cyfr .. need an independent trader to do that for us. With high street national stores, 'tis viewed globally, not just the ones that are making profit (as per the post offices) so cannot compare really.

You are doing a good job questioning these issues, so take heart and consolation in your inquisitive mind. Note my first quote at the bottom of my profile .. that is what you are up against.

andrewb · 27-04-2008, 22:40

Thank-you katex

I believe low tax is good, and that's what promotes and encourages business. I am just questioning the claim as I myself don't know the full figures. If it turns out that 25 grand is high, then I'll happily admit I was wrong in my original glance of the issue.

Royboy39 · 27-04-2008, 22:47

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Originally Posted by katex

You are doing a good job questioning these issues, so take heart and consolation in your inquisitive mind. Note my first quote at the bottom of my profile .. that is what you are up against.

Quote at the bottom of your profile:
I came..I saw ..I conquered..but I am still living in Ossy.
Give the lad some sound advise...Please

katex · 27-04-2008, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Quote at the bottom of your profile:
I came..I saw ..I conquered..but I am still living in Ossy.
Give the lad some sound advise...Please

Ok ..'Just in terms of the allocation of time resource, religion is not very efficient. There's a lot more I could be doing with my Sunday morning' .. Bill Gates.

'I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. Hunter S. Thompson.

'I've stopped drinking, but only when I am asleep' .. George Best

'Before you talk a load of poo ... make sure you have double texture poo paper to wipe it off yer lips' (nicely scented of course .. green friendly and recycled) .. katex.

Can't think of owt else ...