Multiculteral Britain - A No,No?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

there's no denying that Eric.. but this thread was started asking if multiculteral Britian was possible...my answer is that it has to be possible or what does this country turn into?..there are very few nations or countries that have only one culture and in my opinion they are facist states..Iran and China spring to mind.

We've been multi-cultural since at least Anglo-Saxon times, as they were two seperate ethnicities, and arguably well before that too.

Like every other nation on Earth we are a mongrel breed.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

We've been multi-cultural since at least Anglo-Saxon times, as they were two seperate ethnicities, and arguably well before that too.

Like every other nation on Earth we are a mongrel breed.

and you could argue that the strongest.. most successful nations throughout modern history have been of a mixed culteral/ethnic background.

[garinda]

The funniest thing about this thread is that the person who started it couldn't spell cultural.

Which to my mind exhibits a lack of culture, monoculturalism, multiculturalism, or plain old ethnocentricism.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

The funniest thing about this thread is that the person who started it couldn't spell cultural.

Which to my mind exhibits a lack of culture, monoculturalism, multiculturalism, or plain old ethnocentricism.

.. and it's funny that I've been copying the mis-spell..I'll just put it down to misspellturism

[Eric]

Originally Posted by garinda

Territorial clash?

Not that I've seen in the last five years here in Hyndburn, or in the seventeen years before that, that I lived in London.

I do think the majority of people are sick and tired of the way offical wooly liberalism panders to those who weren't born here, instead of encouraging people to integrate. Something we British aren't too good at, when we move over seas ourselves. Happy to exisit in Little England ghettos.

Sounds like you have spent time in Victoria, BC

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by garinda

Certainly didn't offened me.

Until a decade ago the most famous Muslim in the world wasn't Bin Laden, it was someone who always tops the polls of the most popular sportsman of all time, Mohammed Ali.

Its Muhammad Ali

Originally Posted by garinda

Which to my mind exhibits a lack of culture, monoculturalism, multiculturalism, or plain old ethnocentricism.

I agree

[Eric]

Originally Posted by Mancie

there's no denying that Eric.. but this thread was started asking if multiculteral Britian was possible...my answer is that it has to be possible or what does this country turn into?..there are very few nations or countries that have only one culture and in my opinion they are fascist states..Iran and China spring to mind.

I don't think I can accept that Iran and China are unicultural and monolithic ..... seems to me that was thought of the Soviet Union just before it disintegrated. But that's another argument.

But it does seem to me .... with the wisdom, perspective and safety that thousands of kms confer .... that the UK is reaching a crisis point over the issue that we are discussing, what Asimov would have called a Seldon crisis. It's a situation that can't be allowed to proceed unchecked. I'm not suggesting a return to the golden age of George Formby and Guy Gibson, nor that the doors be slammed shut ... just, maybe, that there is someone at the doors controlling who gets in. That's simple. What is difficult is arriving at a consensus of what should be the rules for entry. Over here, it is "do you have the skills that we need; and will you be able to support you and your family." Skin colour and religion don't enter into it. We still have, of course, our racists and our bigots; but they aren't the ones holding the doors.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Its Muhammad Ali

You are right, but there are many varients of the Prophet's name, and not being an expert on Islamic culture, unlike yourself, because it isn't my culture, I don't really care which spelling Cassius Clay chose.

[garinda]

As I've pointed out many times we can all make mistakes, yet it doesn't stop us from getting our point of view across.

I just thought it was more than a little ironic, that in a thread about multiculturalism, the person who'd started the thread had misspelled the word culture.

[Gingerninja]

Originally Posted by Guinness

Its Muhammad Ali



I agree

Hahaha..sarcasm a lower form of wit....but a higher form of intelligence... you must have Spartan blood in those Irish veins...

[Stumped]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I'll say it again... this statement is aimed at colour.. nothing to do with culture..unless you see anyone not white as having a different culture than your own and therefore a threat ?

There's no winning with you, Mancie. I get the impression that you simply like to argue just for argument's sake. Pity, really, for such deliberate intransegance only seeks to undermine true debate.

[Stumped]

Originally Posted by garinda

As I've pointed out many times we can all make mistakes, yet it doesn't stop us from getting our point of view across.

I just thought it was more than a little ironic, that in a thread about multiculturalism, the person who'd started the thread had misspelled the word culture.

Oops!!!!!!!! Nobody's perfect.

[Restless]

no stumped mancie is deffo not arguing for sake of it...Im sure even a racist bigot can see that........or perhaps im too drunk to see

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Stumped

In the light of recent events where a fanatical bunch of no-marks have barracked our troops during a welcome home parade at Luton, is it not time that we re-evaluated our supposedly tolerant approach to the policies of multicultereralism that recent governments have hammered us with.

To avoid all the pedantry and nonsensical colour discrimination accusations, perhaps in future this kind of post should read :-

In the variable spectrum of recent events, long after the birth of mankind, whence a throng of individuals that long ago broke away from their hereditary east african culture and founded a new culture, travelled as a small group, who, seemingly unhappy with their own culture and values, settled amidst another culture. In time they did express that they disagreed most vehemently with many aspects of the new found culture.

(Notwithstanding the fact that this new found culture also began as a breakaway group from the self same hereditary east african culture, which also consisted of a throng of individuals that long ago broke away from their hereditary east african culture and after various battles and wars, became civilised and founded a new culture that they were happy with.)

This disagreement was expressed by verbal abuse, flag burning, bottle throwing and the like against the returning heroic warriors of the new found culture. These dissenters were then protected from the wrath of the families of warriors who would not be returning home by the guardians of the new found culture, who had sworn to uphold the culture of which they were dissenting against.

Is it not time that the new found culture re-evaluated its policies in tolerating this kind of cultural dissent?

[Restless]

Originally Posted by Restless

no stumped mancie is deffo not arguing for sake of it...Im sure even a racist bigot can see that........or perhaps im too drunk to see

hmmm Shut up restless.... you have nothing to say