National Database - Page 3

MargaretR · 26-05-2009, 17:41

Gary - Some transvestites assume their new gender before surgery don't they?
I preferred to ask you rather than google, since I expect that, in view of your past history of meeting infamous people, you would know

MargaretR · 26-05-2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

Who do you discipline .. the one who told them ... and if they dont say who it was well then they have to take the consequences ...

If people dont report it then thats their look see ...

So how will you know who accessed it

shillelagh · 26-05-2009, 17:46

Thats true katex .... look at me .... ive never met some of the people on here but they know i have epilepsy .. i dont care who knows i have it .. that way if i do have a fit then they know whats happening ... especially as i can drop anywhere ..

MargaretR · 26-05-2009, 17:46

As my closing comment in this thread

Geese!! I thought I was doing you a favour telling you that you can opt out if you wish, so that those who want to do can do

garinda · 26-05-2009, 17:49

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Gary - Some transvestites assume their new gender before surgery don't they?
I preferred to ask you rather than google, since I expect that, in view of your past history of meeting infamous people, you would know

Lol, not an expert, but have met one or two on my travels.

Transvestites are usually heterosexual, mostly male, but not always, who enjoy dressing in the clothing of the opposite gender. It's a form of fetish, and is usually kept clandestine.

Transexuals feel as though they have the mind of the opposite gender, and were born into the wrong body. Some, though not all, live as the gender they feel they really are, and a smaller minority have some kind of surgery, to make their lives more acceptable for society to accept them.

garinda · 26-05-2009, 17:55

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Gary - Some transvestites assume their new gender before surgery don't they?
I preferred to ask you rather than google, since I expect that, in view of your past history of meeting infamous people, you would know

By the way, I've never met any famous transvestites, or transexuals.

Paul O'Grady used to come to our parties, at the house I shared when I first lived in London, but he was neither. He was a drag queen, or was, which is something completely different. Something that's just done for money.

garinda · 26-05-2009, 18:14

Tidying this little thread wander neatly together...

interestingly J. Edgar Hoover, head of the F.B.I., was a sceret transvestite.

The data only being made public after his death, by the publication of his diaries and his own F.B.I. files.

It's unknown if the receptionist at his doctors passed on any of this information to her friends and neighbours, if it'd been noted by his doctor on his medical records.

shillelagh · 26-05-2009, 18:18

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

So how will you know who accessed it

As someone who at work does use a computer and when i access a members name its logged who it is thats opened that members record and if i change something it shows as well ... and thats a lowly sports centre .. so surely the NHS will have a better software which will show who has looked at the records ..

Margaret Pilkington · 26-05-2009, 18:57

I do have concerns about all these databases, and the information that they contain.
Huge organisations can be very sloppy about their security at times, as we have seen when supposedly trustworthy folk, have taken flash drives with sensitive information on them and then left them somewhere that they should not have been.
I also have concerns about who accesses this sensitive information.......I have known folk in the NHS access information that they were not entitled to access, out of pure noseyness.
I also have concerns about what happens when systems are down...what are the back-up arrangements for getting hold of information?

mattylad · 26-05-2009, 19:57

The thing is, all these databases and not one of them is linked to another.

Relational databases were no designed for government agencies.

Now if they managed to link them all together then POW! you have a rally informative database.
No need to keep telling the inland revenue your annual salary when claiming a benefit - they will already know, no need to sign a prescription saying your on benefits - the pharmacist will already know.
etc..

Benipete · 26-05-2009, 21:39

[quote=Roy;716638]Can't understand why anybody would not want their medical details on a database, they are only going to be accessed if someone wants to save you!

And about the first post, what the heck has it got to do with anyone if my parents have paid tax or NI? Or even if I was in receipt of vouchers for free clothes?(whatever they are, clothes that is, not vouchers, I'm a naturist as you all know).
Isn't everyones individual situation down to themselves?[/quote)

I really think I have let you down Roy but I tried my best to shield you from the truth about the milk snatcher and the rag and bone man.

Still you will feel better now the story has at least started to unfold.

lindsay ormerod · 26-05-2009, 23:10

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Some people will prefer that their personal health info NOT be available chemist's assistants and the hospital cleaning ladies

This is how to prevent that - nothing sinister - nothing to do with whatever treatment you choose - so why get all sarky about it

A) I object to be referred to as a chemist's assistant and so would my team of highly qualified dispensers.
B) drug interactions are picked up in most cases by pharmacists and dispensers who are way more knowledgeable and up to speed with whats on the market and in the BNF, we regularly have scripts come in with obsolete meds or ridiculous dosages.

Behind every good doctor there is a dispenser or pharmacist saving their butt!

Margaret Pilkington · 27-05-2009, 08:37

Lindsay, you are absolutely right.....and in hospitals it is very likely to be a nurse who save the doctor from making dire mistakes.
I wish iI had had a pound for every mistake I have spotted over the years......I'd be cruising round the bahamas on my money right now.

jaysay · 27-05-2009, 09:29

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Originally Posted by Less

You lost me first

Why did you tell me it was the wrong quote?

It was my wrong post Less not yours, I just put wrong post on my edit, sorry for the confusion

jaysay · 27-05-2009, 09:31

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

Sorry margaret but i read it ..... and im quite happy for people to know my medical records .. simple reason as was proved on friday in my case ..... the ambulance man asked dave if i had diabetes .. and because ive been open about me having epilepsy .. that dave said i know that she has epilepsy ... and also gave the ambulance man my name ... he also asked dave if he could spell it ..

Your doctor is not in casualty is he if you get took to there as an emergency .. Plus what happens if you dont have a broken leg .. you are being treated by your doctor for a stroke .. and if you have a heart attack down town .. what happens then ...

Me too Jen, saves a lot of messing about as you say in casualty and Pharmacy