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Old 22-12-2004, 17:56   #61
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Re: Needless Cruelty

That was the Britannia where you worked was it Entwisi? They had a similar complaint there.
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Old 22-12-2004, 18:37   #62
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Re: Needless Cruelty

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Here the odds by William Hill on next in line to be banned:

Shooting Grouse - 3/1
Fishing - 4/1
Steeplechase - 5/1
here we go tealeaf go and get your dosh on this.
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Old 22-12-2004, 23:24   #63
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Steeplechasing I wouldn't mind seeing banned - I just can't bear to watch horses fall. The one which really got to me was a horse with all four legs broken trying to stand up again.
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Old 22-12-2004, 23:59   #64
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I don't see foxhunting as anymore cruel than bullfighting or "throwing" the donkey off the roof stuff. Having lived in and around the accrington area for some 15 years I regulary went out rabbiting with dogs in the winter months in the nearby countryside and got rabbits for my dinner ( sometimes sold them to the then landlord of the park Inn on manchester road for a pint or 2) To see a fox was rare.. I know live in central London and see foxes dodging cars across main roads early in the morning almost daily.. my question is .. if you say foxhunting with 30 dickheads on horses and 40+dogs finally catching a fox and tearing it to bits is the best way to control foxes.. when should I expect to see you chasing them down Oxford street? .. and as for the countryside alliance! just old tories with their cap tipping thick farmhands in tow.
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Old 23-12-2004, 01:38   #65
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Re: Needless Cruelty

Foxes will never be eradicated, they are like pigeons, they adapt to whatever situation they are in whether it be the countryside or in the centre of a city like London.

They are clever and resourceful, 90% of the time, they escape the jaws of the hunting hounds.........but the remaining 10% die quickly and humanely and that 10% is enough to ensure that the fox population does not over-populate the country....

When this subject first came into the news several years ago, my first instinctive response was to agree with the banning of fox hunting, but when I analysed my reasons, I realised that I was biased against the rich snobs (mainly) that participated in the sport. I cannot afford the upkeep of a "hunter horse" and do not have the connections to become involved in any way. I wonder how many others that are "anti fox hunting" do so because the sport requires money to participate?

They are virmin and wreak havoc on small holders that keep chickens/rabbits or similar to suppliment their income, poison or shooting is inhumane but if they are fortunate enough to have a local hunt, they are assured that they will have "occasional" problems rather than "repetative" problems that may put them out of business.

Another thought to chew on:

This government are looking to relax the rabies laws (if they haven't already done so) but the disease is becoming endemic throughout Europe and heading north! Everybody knows that bats are carriers of rabies but they rarely actually bite humans.....but when they drop out of the sky dead through old age or disease, the most likely scavenger to find them are foxes!!!!

Those that are old enough can surely remember the "foot and mouth" disease that was rampant throughout the U.K. and pets were threatened with compulsary lethal injections in order to stop the threat of spreading the disease, The same situation will occur if rabies hit this country.

Hunting foxes will not eradicate the fox population but will at least keep the foxes at an acceptable level. When rabies finally arives in the U.K, (and it will) the culling of foxes humanely will help to control the spread of rabies.

For those that scorn my opinion, just go to your local G.P, and ask him for protection against rabies.........multible injections into the stomach, very painfull, .....just because you are against the most humane way of controlling the population of foxes!
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Old 23-12-2004, 07:20   #66
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That was the Britannia where you worked was it Entwisi? They had a similar complaint there.
I did work there but this was from a lady At Bentley Wood Farm
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