New Accrington Bus Station

[Mancie]

Can't say there were any beggars years ago in Accy and was never any abuse.. but there were plenty of people drinking on the Broadway and deck on a Saturday afternoon (some members involved) ll. I would'nt say they were alckies or winos but perhaps it's gone to far... or just that the lads who drank there in the 70's have got abit touchy in thier older years

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Can't say there were any beggars years ago in Accy and was never any abuse.. but there were plenty of people drinking on the Broadway and deck on a Saturday afternoon (some members involved) ll. I would'nt say they were alckies or winos but perhaps it's gone to far... or just that the lads who drank there in the 70's have got abit touchy in thier older years

name these members?,i can have a pop at them also. though can remember not getting accosted fer dosh n fags back then as i passed. perhaps i look a soft touch these days.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cashman

name these members?,i can have a pop at them also. though can remember not getting accosted fer dosh n fags back then as i passed. perhaps i look a soft touch these days.

Well now.. not the sort to bandy any names about but I find it hard to believe that some members on here did not partake in a swift gobfull of cider outside Wollies on Broadway and maybe shared a can on the Deck early 70's .. if not then I retract my accusations,

[cashman]

always did my drinking in boozers from 14 yr old anyway,before that behind garages, not town center.was wed early 70s, so slowing down a bit, becoming a good boy.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Well now.. not the sort to bandy any names about but I find it hard to believe that some members on here did not partake in a swift gobfull of cider outside Wollies on Broadway and maybe shared a can on the Deck early 70's .. if not then I retract my accusations,

Not guilty, your honour. My Deck-sitting days were '66-'72 and any drinking money I had was spent in the Derby/Block/Pickwick. Anyway, there was always the chance that my Mum might walk past while she was out shopping and the thought of a tongue-lashing in front of the likes of Isaac and Florrie for spending my afternoons boozing was too embarrassing to think about!

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Not guilty, your honour. My Deck-sitting days were '66-'72 and any drinking money I had was spent in the Derby/Block/Pickwick. Anyway, there was always the chance that my Mum might walk past while she was out shopping and the thought of a tongue-lashing in front of the likes of Isaac and Florrie for spending my afternoons boozing was too embarrassing to think about!

Ok .. I admit no members of Accyweb even sipped a drink on the broadway or deck in the late 70's..but I know I was there.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Ok .. this is getting hard but I admit no members of Accyweb even sipped a drink on the broadway or deck in the late 70's.. and so who were those people?.. ... maybe it was all a dream.

they perhaps were young uns then mancie? but my point is i was never accosted by em fer fags n dosh, unlike these ******* now.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by cashman

they perhaps were young uns then mancie? but my point is i was never accosted by em fer fags n dosh, unlike these ******* now.

Like I say never any beggars.. but to be honest when it comes to drinking on broadway and the deck it's nothing new.. was hapenning in the 70's and pretty heavy when the pubs shut from 3-5.. what is the difference now?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

I think they should have a designated place to sit in their drunken stupors and abuse people. Westminster would be an ideal place, when it's on their doorsteps they might realise what we 'commoners' have to put up with

Quite right.

It's nothing to do with fashion, chavs, or not having a great deal of money.

Most folks round here have never exactly been rolling in it.

It's the fact that Accrington has more than it's fair share of scum compared to similar sized towns, because every smack head, and alchy, can pop up to the free cash point machine at Maunday Model Village, spin some old yarn, hey presto, your next free fix.

Anyone who doesn't see this, is either totatally out of touch, or chooses not to see it.

[shillelagh]

Originally Posted by cashman

Nah jen Accy gains if yeh sod off oer the "Rocker"

Originally Posted by lancsdave

I've just changed my vote, move it to Union st

Thank you ....

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

i was stopped 3 times last week fer money or fags, perhaps some don't want to upset saint Dorothy?

To be quite honest cashy when Dorthy stared off she seemed to be doing a good job and got support from lots of people, but from what I have read both on here and some news outlets, doesn't seem to be endearing herself to the majority these days

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Something else which local councillors seem very reluctant to comment on. Funny how they're falling over themselves to come on here and tell us when they've been successful in getting travellers moved on, but when it comes to more awkward problems like this, there's a deafening silence!

Yesterday we went shopping in Blackburn and then Accrington. We wanted to go to the three shop and I wont shop in the one in Blackburn because I told the little (insert nasty horrible word) I would never shop there again after he would not send a phone of my son's for repair.

Blackburn was busy, very busy really.

Accrington was dead, the shop I wanted and many others were shut.

I understand what you mean about the people but what do you do about that?
Councillors will never openly comment about that problem because these are the people that vote them in.

I have said it before but I think Accrington town centre will die off and close, I think many small towns will suffer the same fate. I think the whole area is suffering from the way society in general appears to be now. Many people dont care about where they live any more. There is no sense of ownership. then again some people dont care how there own house looks so why would they care about the town centre? just look around you when you walk, drive, or ride the bus and look at some of the properties you pass.

In my opinion our Council does not help. We were in the Poulton-le-Fylde area on Saturday collecting some eggs. The place was so lovely and well looked after, wonderful flower displays planted on the street side and grass verges neatly mowed. I commented to Rhonda that the verges must be looked after by the big house we just passed but they were all like that. In my opinion their Council is leading by example and I dont think ours does.

When our streets, footpaths and back streets are uneven, falling to bits and full of litter, Council owned buildings and parks are shabby and uninviting it makes people think why should I bother, nothing I can do will make a difference.

So I think its time for Hyndburn Borough Council to should show us how to look after our Borough, our towns and our green spaces. Lead by example and pull your finger out!!


Sorry about the rant, I got a bit carried away.


Not all people think the way I said many do, I know and work with lots of people who love our borough and put a lot of time and effort into making it a better place to live, we just need more support.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Neil

Yesterday we went shopping in Blackburn and then Accrington. We wanted to go to the three shop and I wont shop in the one in Blackburn because I told the little (insert nasty horrible word) I would never shop there again after he would not send a phone of my son's for repair.

Blackburn was busy, very busy really.

Accrington was dead, the shop I wanted and many others were shut.

I understand what you mean about the people but what do you do about that?
Councillors will never openly comment about that problem because these are the people that vote them in.

I have said it before but I think Accrington town centre will die off and close, I think many small towns will suffer the same fate. I think the whole area is suffering from the way society in general appears to be now. Many people dont care about where they live any more. There is no sense of ownership. then again some people dont care how there own house looks so why would they care about the town centre? just look around you when you walk, drive, or ride the bus and look at some of the properties you pass.

In my opinion our Council does not help. We were in the Poulton-le-Fylde area on Saturday collecting some eggs. The place was so lovely and well looked after, wonderful flower displays planted on the street side and grass verges neatly mowed. I commented to Rhonda that the verges must be looked after by the big house we just passed but they were all like that. In my opinion their Council is leading by example and I dont think ours does.

When our streets, footpaths and back streets are uneven, falling to bits and full of litter, Council owned buildings and parks are shabby and uninviting it makes people think why should I bother, nothing I can do will make a difference.

So I think its time for Hyndburn Borough Council to should show us how to look after our Borough, our towns and our green spaces. Lead by example and pull your finger out!!


Sorry about the rant, I got a bit carried away.


Not all people think the way I said many do, I know and work with lots of people who love our borough and put a lot of time and effort into making it a better place to live, we just need more support.

Neil, taking all that into account, the LAST thing this town needs is yet another problem on top...a problem that is particular to Accy. As a frequent visitor to the town, I've noticed over the last few years that there seem to be a high number of people in the town centre tapping you up for money or dossing around in a generally wasted condition. This doesn't happen to the same extent in other surrounding towns I've been to or even in Manchester. As I don't live here, I couldn't understand why this should be, but from reading other people's posts I'm starting to gain an inkling.

What I would like to hear from Graham Jones and from members of the present town council - Ken Moss (when he's back from his hols), Bernard Dawson and Claytonender - is what their views are on this problem and how they think it should be tackled. Is that too much to ask of them?

[Benipete]

I think Poulton-Le-Fylde Is a Conservative Council.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Neil, taking all that into account, the LAST thing this town needs is yet another problem on top...a problem that is particular to Accy. As a frequent visitor to the town, I've noticed over the last few years that there seem to be a high number of people in the town centre tapping you up for money or dossing around in a generally wasted condition. This doesn't happen to the same extent in other surrounding towns I've been to or even in Manchester. As I don't live here, I couldn't understand why this should be, but from reading other people's posts I'm starting to gain an inkling.

What I would like to hear from Graham Jones and from members of the present town council - Ken Moss (when he's back from his hols), Bernard Dawson and Claytonender - is what their views are on this problem and how they think it should be tackled. Is that too much to ask of them?

You may have guessed I'm not too keen on the part of the town that's been taken over by Maunday Grange.

My objections aren't personal. I've met Dorothy McGregor, and she's genuinely a wonderful person.

However, having had a lot of contact with drug addicts, her naivety means the charity has become a facilitator for addicts to carry on feeding their habit.

I've seen money being given directly to people who spin some hard luck story, and score five minutes later, within yards of this charity.

An addict would steal off their dieing mum to score their next hit.

No wonder we have more than our fair share of undesirables.

Because of Maunday Grange Accrington has become the destination of choice for any addict who wants a free hit.

Tough love helps people kick addictions, not well meaning kindness.