News of the World Mobile Phone Hacking - Page 21

DtheP47 · 24-06-2014, 17:37

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Yes......I know they were. It still doesn't give me any great confidence in the system.

I can understand where you are coming from Margaret but I personally think it's better than all the alternatives that could be used to reach a verdict. And yes I know juries can be "got at" but less of a chance of a dodgy verdict than the old boys network and all that entails.
I also like the considerations of the victims statements by the judge when looking at sentencing.

davebtelford · 24-06-2014, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I thought justice was blindfolded.....I think it is time somebody checked that blindfold for moth holes!

If the statue on the Old Bailey is anything to go by justice isn't blindfolded (may be blind though - can't really tell).

Lucysgirl · 24-06-2014, 18:34

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

She admitted on camera they paid Police for info. Why isn't she being prosecuted for this? Elite connections perhaps? Hmmm

Maybe that's why she looked stunned when she was cleared of the charge of authorising illegal payments to public officials.

cashman · 24-06-2014, 18:43

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Whats betting she gets away with it

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Originally Posted by Neil

Haha I almost lost wee laughing when I just heard on the news that Rebekah Brooks has been cleared of all charges.

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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer

She admitted on camera they paid Police for info. Why isn't she being prosecuted for this? Elite connections perhaps? Hmmm

Perhaps cos the police should also be prosecuted if they had gone down that road? n we could never have that.

Margaret Pilkington · 24-06-2014, 19:26

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Originally Posted by DtheP47

I can understand where you are coming from Margaret but I personally think it's better than all the alternatives that could be used to reach a verdict. And yes I know juries can be "got at" but less of a chance of a dodgy verdict than the old boys network and all that entails.
I also like the considerations of the victims statements by the judge when looking at sentencing.

I was thinking purely of this case......and I wasn't suggesting that the jury had been 'got at'...more along the lines that the case had been played out so that the jury had doubts planted(evidence can be given in ways that mean there is doubt rather than certainty in their minds and I am pretty sure she would have had some very competent defence lawyer....maybe the prosecution didn't try too hard either on the instructions from people in high places, maybe there was collusion between the two - again instructed by the same elite. We won't ever know).....and if there is a shadow of a doubt then you cannot return any verdict other than 'not guilty'.
It has to be admitted that she has friends in high places and that she has admitted to having done some very dubious things to get 'news' stories...like paying the police for information.
Not the actions of someone with integrity.

I think that if this had been you or me we would be looking at a long time in the slammer.

Accyexplorer · 24-06-2014, 20:03

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Originally Posted by cashman

Perhaps cos the police should also be prosecuted if they had gone down that road? n we could never have that.

Yes C, one wonders why very senior and deeply corrupt police officers, directly involved with selling information to the Media, all seem to have slithered away.Maybe to keep full pension rights intact?

accyman · 24-06-2014, 20:17

of course brooks got off with all charges we cant have camerons close friend been found guilty of anything can we ?

Less · 24-06-2014, 21:19

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Originally Posted by accyman

of course brooks got off with all charges we cant have camerons close friend been found guilty of anything can we ?

along similar lines, if he was on trial for telling porkies, he would be given the benefit of the doubt, after all he's only doing it to keep his job, unlike Blair and his WMD lies that would have him convicted for leading us into an illegal war.
Hang on, was it a war, or were we just prospecting for oil?
Obviously if we were just prospecting then even he would get off, after all we know there are fatilities in any industry.

cmonstanley · 24-06-2014, 21:24

wonder what the texts that brooks sent to david cameron,wonder what was on the computer she dumped in the multi-story car park

cashman · 24-06-2014, 22:03

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

wonder what the texts that brooks sent to david cameron,wonder what was on the computer she dumped in the multi-story car park

Texts about dog biters, or so i heard.

Less · 24-06-2014, 22:18

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

wonder what the texts that brooks sent to david cameron,wonder what was on the computer she dumped in the multi-story car park

Must have a big arse if she can dump a computer!

Still, she should be done for deficating in public.

Less · 24-06-2014, 22:22

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Originally Posted by cashman

Texts about dog biters, or so i heard.

Perhaps, but I bet the only replies she got were, have you seen my kids? I seem to have one missing.

cashman · 24-06-2014, 23:12

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Originally Posted by cashman

Texts about dog biters, or so i heard.

Sorry meant dog stabbers, us owd gets get confused at night.

Accyexplorer · 25-06-2014, 00:51

Why the promise of an apology when Coulson was arrested?
because he knew all along what a rat Coulson was and he privately knew from confidential GCHQ records that his texts would incriminate him

It took the trial weeks to find out he was full of it.
Surely DC already found that out himself.
I'd call Cameron something only he doesn't have the warmth or the depth to justify using it

Your chickens are coming home to roost DC.

cmonstanley · 25-06-2014, 06:36

i think there will be more to come out next year ie gordon brown

dog stabbers

never mind that what happened about the boy who got his ears chopped off