NHS; Rest in Peace!?

kestrelx · 21-03-2012, 20:52

The Con-dems had no mandate to change the NHS!

Daily Mirror says NHS Killed by the Coalition!

Daily Mirror put "NHS gravestone" on front page | Political Scrapbook

Does anyone here really know what the NHS Reform Bill is actually going to change?

Well for a start they are going to abolish the NHS Primary Care Trusts (PCT's) and the Strategic Health Authorities (SHA's) and that will free up £60 to £80 Billion of health care funds that will then be given to the new "Clinical commissioning groups" which will be partly run by GP's which means they'll have more work to do!

I am wondering how long it will take to set up this new system and if this will mean there will be a period of dysfunction in that it won't run smooth for a period of time - how can it?

If I go to my GP's tommorrow they will be able to refer me to any medical service they think I need and within a couple of months I'll get an appointment for something that is not an emergency! With these changes it is obvious there will be a period of time that won't happen while the new system is put into place! The issue is will patients suffer because of it?

maxthecollie · 21-03-2012, 22:22

I hope we have all saved up to visit the doctor

kestrelx · 23-03-2012, 00:46

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie

I hope we have all saved up to visit the doctor

It might cost an arm and a leg!

maxthecollie · 23-03-2012, 06:53

Knowing this lot, two arms and two legs.

kestrelx · 23-03-2012, 14:24

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie

Knowing this lot, two arms and two legs.

Well people will be watching what happens like hawks and if we don't get the service we have become acustomed to then there will be trouble and it will probably by the Lib Dems that get trounced!

Wrighty · 23-03-2012, 14:47

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Well people will be watching what happens like hawks and if we don't get the service we have become acustomed to then there will be trouble and it will probably by the Lib Dems that get trounced!

The NHS is a shambles tbh .. take this article for example , absolutely shocking!

Woman died after Muslim nurse refused to help as he was praying - Telegraph

Mancie · 23-03-2012, 23:45

The demise of the NHS is not a big issue.. the demise of the benches in front of the town hall is much more important.

cashman · 23-03-2012, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Mancie

The demise of the NHS is not a big issue.. the demise of the benches in front of the town hall is much more important.

At last a sensible comment from someone.

cmonstanley · 24-03-2012, 01:18

thats because they use nurses from private companies now,that are in it solely for profit thats the private companies

Mancie · 24-03-2012, 01:47

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Originally Posted by cashman

At last a sensible comment from someone.

There's a song about the benches ain't there

If I had a bench
I'd sit there in the morning
I'd sit there in the evening
All over this land
I'd sit without danger
I'd sit out without a warning
I'd sit there with the love between the druggies and the drunkards all over Accrington
oooooower
oooooower

Mancie · 24-03-2012, 02:08

The reality is that the taxes and national insurance we all pay can now be placed into private companies..that is not the reason the NHS was set up for.. but the Tories have always hated the NHS...this Tory government will sleep well in their beds knowing they have put the health of this country back to the 1930's and achieved the Tory holy Grail

Ken Moss · 24-03-2012, 08:52

This subject was debated on Thursday night at Full Council and a motion passed to write to the government to consider amending the act. However, the local Conservatives had walked out by this point and took no part in the discussion.

Having had several major operations in the past two years on the NHS I fear for the future of the health service. I certainly couldn't have continued working if I hadn't had the surgery, therefore taking more out of the system in benefits and paying much less back into it in tax.

I simply couldn't afford to go private, it does concern me that we seem to be moving towards the American system.

garinda · 24-03-2012, 09:15

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

This subject was debated on Thursday night at Full Council and a motion passed to write to the government to consider amending the act. However, the local Conservatives had walked out by this point and took no part in the discussion.

Having had several major operations in the past two years on the NHS I fear for the future of the health service. I certainly couldn't have continued working if I hadn't had the surgery, therefore taking more out of the system in benefits and paying much less back into it in tax.

I simply couldn't afford to go private, it does concern me that we seem to be moving towards the American system.

Is the government of Pakistan backing Hyndburn International Council, in their fight against the British government?

jaysay · 24-03-2012, 09:57

Maybe if we didn't have to treat free of charge all the people that have never paid a penny into the NHS, that were admitted to this country on the last governments open door policy them maybe things would be better, if you go on holiday or even if you emigrate to another country try getting free health care without insurance, its only here in good old Great Britain that we have the everybody welcome free of charge written on hospital doors

garinda · 24-03-2012, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Mancie

The demise of the NHS is not a big issue.. the demise of the benches in front of the town hall is much more important.

Do try and keep up, with our local issues.

The disappearing benches 'experiment', removed because drunks acted the goat near them, used to be sited outside the Market Hall.