Nick Clegg - Page 2

cashman · 25-10-2010, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I think it's only the start of Clegg's political career.. when it suits he could easily leave the dems and be a major player in the tory party...the lib-dems will suffer at elections from their disgrace.. but Nick Clegg will not.

that discussion was concured wi in our house yesterday mancie.

every chance imho.

Wynonie Harris · 25-10-2010, 22:19

Tony Blair could be a Tory...David Cameron could be New Labour...all these modern political leaders come out of the same mould anyway...you could never have said that about Michael Foot and Enoch Powell!

Mancie · 25-10-2010, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Tony Blair could be a Tory...David Cameron could be New Labour...all these modern political leaders come out of the same mould anyway...you could never have said that about Michael Foot and Enoch Powell!

No you could not say that about Foot and Powell..one a socialist and the other a right wing facist racist.. but at least they were honest.

jaysay · 26-10-2010, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I think it's only the start of Clegg's political career.. when it suits he could easily leave the dems and be a major player in the tory party...the lib-dems will suffer at elections from their disgrace.. but Nick Clegg will not.

Well there's one thing for sure he wouldn't be joining the cowboy outfit that have just been ousted from office

JCB · 26-10-2010, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Mancie

No you could not say that about Foot and Powell..one a socialist and the other a right wing facist racist.. but at least they were honest.

In 1945 Enoch Powell voted Labour , but was soon to join the Conservatives .

In 1974 he left the Conservative party , and in the two General Elections of that year , February and October , he urged the voters to vote Labour .

In the October election he was elected as an Ulster Unionist MP .

When asked about the Thatcher victory of 1979 he replied , " Grim " .

In the 1980s he made speeches supporting unilateral nuclear disarmament .

Quite a maverick .

Tealeaf · 26-10-2010, 19:06

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Originally Posted by JCB

Quite a maverick .

Just like Churchill.

JCB · 26-10-2010, 19:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay

And Neil Kinnock in 1992 too JCB

Yes , Jaysay . Poor Neil .

We can learn plenty from the ups and downs in politics , as long as you don't let it get you down .

I have been thinking of the General Elections in my lifetime . Only 3 governments went the full 5 year term , and all 3 lost power .
1. 1964 , the Conservatives led by Sir Alec Douglas-Home .
2. 1992 , the Conservatives led by John Major .
3. 2010 , Labour led by Gordon Brown .

David Cameron says that his government intends to serve a full 5 year term .

cashman · 26-10-2010, 20:17

as i understood it JCB, Enoch Powell was pushed out in 74, after his infamous "Rivers Of Blood" speech? he never actually left of his own accord?

JCB · 26-10-2010, 20:29

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Originally Posted by cashman

as i understood it JCB, Enoch Powell was pushed out in 74, after his infamous "Rivers Of Blood" speech? he never actually left of his own accord?

Yes he was sacked from his shadow cabinet post after the speech in 1968 , but left the party in 1974 .

cashman · 26-10-2010, 20:32

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Originally Posted by JCB

Yes he was sacked from his shadow cabinet post after the speech in 1968 , but left the party in 1974 .

ah cheers fer clearing that up fer me, memorys not what it was,past alcohol, is getting the blame.

jaysay · 27-10-2010, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Just like Churchill.

Ya Tory then Liberal then back to the Tories