Nick Griffin and the B.B.C. - Page 2

garinda · 23-10-2009, 11:08

Quite entertaining.

Impressed with all Griffin's past quotes they had ready, especially the one about them sugar coating what they say publicly, and what they'd really like to do, given the chance.

Disappointed, but not suprised, that Jack Straw wouldn't take any responsibility for his government's inaction over immigration.

Was quite impressed with Sayeeda Warsi, until it became clear her ideas on tolerance didn't extend to homosexuals.

Anyone swayed to support the B.N.P. after last night's programme, has more than one screw loose.

shillelagh · 23-10-2009, 15:30

seems hes going to complain to the bbc ..

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Griffin complaint over BBC 'mob'

garinda · 23-10-2009, 16:47

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seems hes going to complain to the bbc ..

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Griffin complaint over BBC 'mob'

He has a good case.

They were all pickin' on him, just because he's an imbecile, and that's prejudiced.

Bless.

Stumped · 23-10-2009, 17:31

In no way would I ever consider supporting the vile (hidden) agenda of the BNP, but I do admit to feeling a little sorry for Griffin in the way that he was plainly set up by the BBC. David Dimbleby was lax in allowing the mainly ethnicly selected audience to browbeat him in a way that I align with bullying. However, the one thing that did come across was the bumbling idiocy of Blackburn's man of straw. The man is a complete and utter buffoon. Always was and always will be. The only panelist to shine was Baroness Warsi who actually spoke a lot of sense. If the rioting around the BBC was a foretaste of what is to come, then may the Good Lord help us when the General Election campaign gets under way.

Incidentally, a good many of the text messages sent to QT were in support of the BNP. They are often more informative of public opinion than the program will ever be.

Benipete · 23-10-2009, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Stumped

In no way would I ever consider supporting the vile (hidden) agenda of the BNP, but I do admit to feeling a little sorry for Griffin in the way that he was plainly set up by the BBC. David Dimbleby was lax in allowing the mainly ethnicly selected audience to browbeat him in a way that I align with bullying. However, the one thing that did come across was the bumbling idiocy of Blackburn's man of straw. The man is a complete and utter buffoon. Always was and always will be. The only panelist to shine was Baroness Warsi who actually spoke a lot of sense. If the rioting around the BBC was a foretaste of what is to come, then may the Good Lord help us when the General Election campaign gets under way.

Incidentally, a good many of the text messages sent to QT were in support of the BNP. They are often more informative of public opinion than the program will ever be.

In the main I agree with you.But how can you call a man with three houses a Buffoon.He may not have a highway named after him but I am informed that Jack Straw Cul-de Sac is in the pipeline

Bagpuss · 23-10-2009, 18:16

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Came across as a fool. He fell apart under intense scrutiny. Finally people have had the chance to knock him off his platform instead of censoring him and letting him manipulate voters on the doorstep.

I disagree I thought he held up well despite the attempts from a very biased selected audience to trip him up. Jack Straw was the fool of the show, time for him to retire, why did he not just answer the question that this governments immigration policy has helped the rise of the BNP.

Restless · 23-10-2009, 18:45

not seen it yet but i expect nick griffin to be against jack straw straight off...you know see the hate in the garbages eyes when he looks at straw....straw being jewish and all....

Mancie · 23-10-2009, 18:53

I don't think the QT audience was specially selected...if they were biased against the BNP leader but then it's not surprising...90% of the general public are against the BNP.

Restless · 23-10-2009, 19:01

so true mancie

Stumped · 23-10-2009, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Benipete

In the main I agree with you.But how can you call a man with three houses a Buffoon.He may not have a highway named after him but I am informed that Jack Straw Cul-de Sac is in the pipeline

He's obviously trying to emulate Jaquie Smith and the Blairs. Be interesting to learn how much of his mortgage debts were met by the taxpayer through nefarious 'expenses' claims!

garinda · 23-10-2009, 19:18

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I disagree I thought he held up well

Really?

You're easily pleased.

The only thing that made him comparable with any other politican, was his inability to answer a straight question, with a straight answer.

The most embarrassing, and toe curling aspect of his appearance was his sycophantic toadying up to Bonnie Greer, and attempting to align himself with her comic observations.

I'm sure after last night, those who are dissatisfied with main stream parties handling of immigration, will see him as a fool.

Real racists will now see him as a sell out, and a fool.

The main outcome after last night, is that by the B.B.C. allowing the B.N.P. a platform, the B.N.P. have happily done themselves no favours.

Taggy · 24-10-2009, 09:09

To be honest i dont think the BBC should be blamed in any way for allowing this scumbag to air his views....and be questioned on national TV! Its by bringing people like this to a wider audience, and subjecting them to public scrutany, that people will see them for the shallow bigots that they really are. I'd go a step further actually, i'd also allow some of the so called preachers of hate, from other despicable groups, to air their views on the likes of question time, so that they too could be seen by many for who they are, and be subjected to the type of questioning that we would all like see take place. Yes it may well give them there 15 minutes of Fame, but the sheer idiocy and hatred contained within their beliefs would be laid bare for all to see, and make it harder for them and their followers to justify their position, when we can all see what they really stand for. The more open these debates are, the more freely we will be able to discus things without having to suffer from the deviceivness of the PC brigade!!

Best Regards - Taggy

yerself · 24-10-2009, 13:45

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90% of the general public are against the BNP.

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Originally Posted by Restless

so true mancie

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Originally Posted by garinda

the B.N.P. have happily done themselves no favours.

According to the news on Radio 2 this morning a Yougov survey taken after Nick Griffin's appearance on Question Time resulted in over a fifth of people questioned saying they would vote BNP at the next election.

g jones · 24-10-2009, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Taggy

To be honest i dont think the BBC should be blamed in any way for allowing this scumbag to air his views....and be questioned on national TV! Its by bringing people like this to a wider audience, and subjecting them to public scrutany, that people will see them for the shallow bigots that they really are. I'd go a step further actually, i'd also allow some of the so called preachers of hate, from other despicable groups, to air their views on the likes of question time, so that they too could be seen by many for who they are, and be subjected to the type of questioning that we would all like see take place. Yes it may well give them there 15 minutes of Fame, but the sheer idiocy and hatred contained within their beliefs would be laid bare for all to see, and make it harder for them and their followers to justify their position, when we can all see what they really stand for. The more open these debates are, the more freely we will be able to discus things without having to suffer from the deviceivness of the PC brigade!!

Best Regards - Taggy

Totally agree with above. Well said.

Thought the BBC and particularly Dimbleby played into BNP by turning it into a witch hunt on Griffin rather than discuss Afghanistan, the economy etc...

Griffin is clearly bonkers and any good points he had such as the banking crises would not have happened under Islam were lost.

garinda · 24-10-2009, 14:00

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According to the news on Radio 2 this morning a Yougov survey taken after Nick Griffin's appearance on Question Time resulted in over a fifth of people questioned saying they would vote BNP at the next election.

YouGov asked whether people had positive or negative opinions of the smaller parties – questions that it last asked in June straight after the European elections. Back then 11% of people had a positive impression of the BNP and 72% a negative impression, today’s figures are 9% positive and 71% negative, so no sign of any improvement in people’s opinion of the BNP either.

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