Nigel Farage

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Tax...grammar schools...wind farms...who cares? Nobody expects 'em to get into power. They're a "stalking horse" party, useful for mobilising a big protest vote to put the wind up the big two over the issue of Europe.

Absolutely right!! If they were working in this country alone they would be more of a lobbying group really. They were actually set up as a protest party and if truth be told only see themselves as such still. They don't actually need that much in the way of policies to achieve what they set out to achieve and that is to rid this country of the evil (yes that's right) of the European Union. Don't forget that this is the same organisation which stockpiled various foods to force up prices to benefit inefficient European farmers. They didn't give a toss about how much hardship they caused. They didn't even give it to starving nations, they just let it rot.
I could go on but, frankly, my hatred of the European Union knows no bounds, and I think I would be preaching to the converted anyway.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

Absolutely right!! If they were working in this country alone they would be more of a lobbying group really. They were actually set up as a protest party and if truth be told only see themselves as such still. They don't actually need that much in the way of policies to achieve what they set out to achieve and that is to rid this country of the evil (yes that's right) of the European Union. Don't forget that this is the same organisation which stockpiled various foods to force up prices to benefit inefficient European farmers. They didn't give a toss about how much hardship they caused. They didn't even give it to starving nations, they just let it rot.
I could go on but, frankly, my hatred of the European Union knows no bounds, and I think I would be preaching to the converted anyway.

An enlightened approach to Euroscepticism. Agree with every single word you say, HB.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

Absolutely right!! If they were working in this country alone they would be more of a lobbying group really. They were actually set up as a protest party and if truth be told only see themselves as such still. They don't actually need that much in the way of policies to achieve what they set out to achieve and that is to rid this country of the evil (yes that's right) of the European Union. Don't forget that this is the same organisation which stockpiled various foods to force up prices to benefit inefficient European farmers. They didn't give a toss about how much hardship they caused. They didn't even give it to starving nations, they just let it rot.
I could go on but, frankly, my hatred of the European Union knows no bounds, and I think I would be preaching to the converted anyway.

Ya the good old Butter Mountains, can remember in the nineties they were giving butter way to pensioners and the disabled, just to get rid of it. And lets not forget all these rules set out on things like farming which on good old GB ever keeps to, the rest just stick two fingers up, its the British stiff upper lip always playing by the rules

[MargaretR]

The pharma companies' war against herbal remedies is beginning to bite via the EU's directive.
A backgound to what is happening now was outlined in this Guardian article in 2002
Health supplements: R.I.P. | Society | The Guardian

I use a herb named Lomatium Dissectum, which I have found to be very effective against all types of bronchial infection.

After May this year no company in EU is allowed to sell it.

Fortunately this country does not block its import yet, although some EU countries do.

I have recently received a shipment of 4 1oz bottles of tincture from USA which cost $44.56/£28.83. Delivery was delayed by 3weeks whilst UK customs decided to add on a vat charge, and Royal Mail added on an extra £8 for 'handling' the collection of that vat.

Since I expect to need a bottle a week during the winter months I have searched for a way to reduce the cost.

If I import only two bottles at a time, the customs declaration will show the value of the import to be less than £15, so I will escape paying import duty @12%, vat @20% and Royal Mail's £8.

I resent having to 'jump through hoops' just to supply myself with a herbal remedy instead of using the NHS, which I could use free.(but which I wouldn't because the pharmacuticals on offer are less effective)

This is just one small example of how EU regulation limits individual liberty.

[Less]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya the good old Butter Mountains, can remember in the nineties they were giving butter way to pensioners and the disabled, just to get rid of it. And lets not forget all these rules set out on things like farming which on good old GB ever keeps to, the rest just stick two fingers up, its the British stiff upper lip always playing by the rules

Heady days indeed, I remember sneaking over to France late at night just to go swimming and peeing in their wine lake.

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya the good old Butter Mountains, can remember in the nineties they were giving butter way to pensioners and the disabled, just to get rid of it. And lets not forget all these rules set out on things like farming which on good old GB ever keeps to, the rest just stick two fingers up, its the British stiff upper lip always playing by the rules

You know, Jay, Europe is one of the very few things that I agree with the majority of Tories about. A good old dose of Euro-scepticism. The Labour party are a bit too soft on the European issue (although they do have a great many sceptics) and as for the Lib Dems, if they had their way we would just be a subordinate European state by now.

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by Less

Heady days indeed, I remember sneaking over to France late at night just to go swimming and peeing in their wine lake.

Nice one Less. I hope that was about the time I was making my own wine. Nowadays I usually stick to South American and Australian anyway, far superior to anything the French produce now.

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

Nice one Less. I hope that was about the time I was making my own wine. Nowadays I usually stick to South American and Australian anyway, far superior to anything the French produce now.

I used to make wine. When I started I could buy tins of grape concentrate of particular grape varieties, which produced a wine very much like the chateau produce.

The EU didn't like the idea that home made dispensed with the need to buy (duty paid) bottles, so they restricted the sale of grape concentrate to 'red, white and rose', which made home made wine less attractive.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Less

Heady days indeed, I remember sneaking over to France late at night just to go swimming and peeing in their wine lake.

I hope it was the Claret you were peeing in Less

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I hope it was the Claret you were peeing in Less

Well done, Jay, genuinely funny. I wonder if he had the "blues" whilst he was doing it?

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Personally, I think he should be more rude about obscenely overpaid nonentities like van Rompuy and Ashton. What a pity more politicians don't treat these leeches with the contempt they so richly deserve...but of course, they wouldn't want to rock the boat!

Agreed. The EU is all about the New World Order - they want Europe to be ruled by One Government, One Army, One People - the Internet will allow utimately one World Government.

Denis Healey founding member of the secret Bilderberg Group said when questioned about the Bilderberg Group wanting a One World Government said..."To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Agreed. The EU is all about the New World Order - they want Europe to be ruled by One Government, One Army, One People - the Internet will allow utimately one World Government.

Denis Healey founding member of the secret Bilderberg Group said when questioned about the Bilderberg Group wanting a One World Government said..."To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."

One World Government ya reight, mind you Denis always was a silly billy

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by jaysay

One World Government ya reight, mind you Denis always was a silly billy

Yeh well start small - what about a EU Government ruling over us all! That is what they want to bring in.

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Yeh well start small - what about a EU Government ruling over us all! That is what they want to bring in.

To quote Tolkien:
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
Except that Lord of the Rings is a classic fantasy, the EU is very,very real.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

To quote Tolkien:
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
Except that Lord of the Rings is a classic fantasy, the EU is very,very real.

No joke - 5 mins ago I was going to post exactly what you said here before you said it! Does that link in with the Olympics? One World Order!