Nigel Farage

Neil · 23-09-2012, 10:15

This man makes me smile every time I listen to him.

I think a lot of what he says makes sense.

Guinness · 23-09-2012, 10:19

Yeah, he got fined a couple of grand for that little outburst, well worth it though

Wynonie Harris · 23-09-2012, 10:24

The Emperor's new clothes. If only more politicians had the guts to speak out like he does!

cashman · 23-09-2012, 10:30

Well they may call him a One Trick Pony, but he will get my vote come the time.

Margaret Pilkington · 23-09-2012, 10:36

Steve, it would be good, but 'c'mon, aren't they all looking after their own hides.
It doesn't pay them to be outspoken...to support the views of the electorate.....hell, it would lose them money....the only people the MP's are interested in, are themselves.

When their time is up at the Palace of Westminster, they all want a place on the gravy train...speaking out would compromise that.

MargaretR · 23-09-2012, 10:42

I thought he was wonderful too, until I read that Rothschild was a major donator to UKIP .

So he is hock to the elite bankers like all the rest

cashman · 23-09-2012, 10:45

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I thought he was wonderful too, until I read that Rothschild was a major donator to UKIP .

So he is hock to the elite bankers like all the rest

The trick is to use them fer as long as it suits you.

jaysay · 23-09-2012, 10:51

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The trick is to use them fer as long as it suits you.

The only thing is political parties don't progress without finances, withdraw it and they fall on their face

Wynonie Harris · 23-09-2012, 10:59

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When their time is up at the Palace of Westminster, they all want a place on the gravy train...speaking out would compromise that.

I would agree, Margaret, and here's one of the most scandalous examples.

Baroness Ashton absent from two thirds of European Commission meetings - Telegraph

£230,000 a year and she doesn't turn up for two thirds of the meetings. "The most overpaid bureaucrat in the world" as Nigel Farage called her.

cashman · 23-09-2012, 15:35

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I would agree, Margaret, and here's one of the most scandalous examples.

Baroness Ashton absent from two thirds of European Commission meetings - Telegraph

£230,000 a year and she doesn't turn up for two thirds of the meetings. "The most overpaid bureaucrat in the world" as Nigel Farage called her.

Yeh but that was very disrespectful, even if it was the truth.

Eric · 23-09-2012, 17:27

So that's who he is. UKIP. Seem to remember reading in the "Guardian" ... it was yesterday, I think, ... that the UKIP is now ahead of the Lib-Dems in the polls. Not surprizing really. He seems to be speaking out, not only for Britain, but also for the idea of the European Nation State. And he sounds like the guy to vote for if you want someone to "Speak for England", and if you want someone to send an unambiguous message to Labour and the Conservatives. He still hasn't hit the radar on this side of the pond. He's about as well-known over here as Pauline Marois is over there

susie123 · 23-09-2012, 17:39

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So that's who he is. UKIP. Seem to remember reading in the "Guardian" ... it was yesterday, I think, ... that the UKIP is now ahead of the Lib-Dems in the polls. Not surprizing really. He seems to be speaking out, not only for Britain, but also for the idea of the European Nation State. And he sounds like the guy to vote for if you want someone to "Speak for England", and if you want someone to send an unambiguous message to Labour and the Conservatives. He still hasn't hit the radar on this side of the pond. He's about as well-known over here as Pauline Marois is over there

Well he's been around a while, heard him speak as a candidate in our local constituency in the 1997 election. Been carrying my sick bag around ever since just in case he turns up again.

Eric · 23-09-2012, 18:22

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Well he's been around a while, heard him speak as a candidate in our local constituency in the 1997 election. Been carrying my sick bag around ever since just in case he turns up again.

But isn't a voice such as his needed in a democracy ... pour l'encourager les autres? And it seems as if les autres need a little incentive to respond to that large constituency in Britain (How large is it? 100% - 95% = ?) ... well at least the five percent of voters who do give "a toss" about membership in the EU.

I think an advocatus diaboli should be a compulsory addition to all democracies. Someone should argue against the cannonization of the German vision of a United States of Europe (under Prussian leadership, of course).

Let's face it, Labour and the Conservatives are alarmingly similar ... just like the Liberals and the Conservatives over here. All they seem to argue about are the details. And both parties seem commited to Europe

There seem to be occasional rumblings from the tory backbenchers; but this is probably flatulence caused by over indulging at the trough.

Sorry about the French ... it's second nature over here

And the phrase is common enough. And it has probably passed into English usage. After all, it was the execution of an English Admiral which gave rise to it

susie123 · 23-09-2012, 18:41

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But isn't a voice such as his needed in a democracy ... pour l'encourager les autres?

Just don't like the man - rude, cocky, arrogant - watching that clip confirmed it.

Eric · 23-09-2012, 19:09

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Just don't like the man - rude, cocky, arrogant - watching that clip confirmed it.

Maybe he is ... but, knowing he has a snowball in hell's chance of ever holding power, he can be himself. He doesn't have a mask for public consumption. Until mainstream politicians blow their cool, and scream insults at coppers, we never know what they are like. Or they could be caught off-guard on tape, or in a video ... Hi, Mitt; how's it hangin' buddy

This guy can be up front ... he's got nothing to lose. Maybe those folks who think that Cameron is the cat's pajamas, or that the sun shines out of Milleband's posterior orofice might change their minds if these two were caught off guard.