no smoking in pubs. - Page 4

Restless · 01-09-2009, 06:33

appropriate video for this thread

jaysay · 01-09-2009, 09:19

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Originally Posted by cashman

without being aggressive i think all the whinging non smokers, should be taken out n shot.

Hey I'm a none smoker and I'm not whinging, and whats more I hate the smell of gun smoke it gets on mi chest

cashman · 01-09-2009, 10:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Hey I'm a none smoker and I'm not whinging, and whats more I hate the smell of gun smoke it gets on mi chest

so it dont affect you then does it?

Mancie · 01-09-2009, 14:40

I don't know of anyone who has stopped going to pubs because they can't smoke inside....have smokers stopped using trains, planes, or even taxis because they are not allowed to smoke?..if so then they are pathetic...and I am a smoker.

Eric · 01-09-2009, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I don't know of anyone who has stopped going to pubs because they can't smoke inside....have smokers stopped using trains, planes, or even taxis because they are not allowed to smoke?..if so then they are pathetic...and I am a smoker.

This is really a bs argument ... people don't take trains, planes, and taxis for a good time ... ok., maybe a Via Rail train through the Rockies ... however, people who go to pubs are heading there for a fun nite out. You can't compare them in this way ... well, you can, but it doesn't make sense.

And the stats thing: it isn't appropriate to argue that only about 20% of UK adults smoke,therefore, only this percentage of pub customers smoke. I think one will find that, among the folks who head out for a pint, the percentage of smokers is quite probably higher. In order for the stats to make a little more sense, one should poll the people who regularly go to pubs in order to find out what percentage of them smoke. I would hazzard a guess that it will not reflect the 80-20 split. I often pop into Rhea's Bar, a working stiffs pub with a lot of regulars, for a beer. Last time I was there, I noticed that all of the patrons were smokers, as was the bartender.

Going out for a drink at the pub is an adult activity. (Ok, some of us may have started a little early). No one is forced to go to a pub. If there were true choice, then the owners of pubs should be able to choose whether the premises are "smoking" or "non-smoking." And then the customers would be able to choose.

Mancie · 01-09-2009, 18:55

yes Eric but do people really stay indoors or avoid pubs because they are not allowed to smoke?..I'd say that those who do are a very small percentage..very small.

cashman · 01-09-2009, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Mancie

yes Eric but do people really stay indoors or avoid pubs because they are not allowed to smoke?..I'd say that those who do are a very small percentage..very small.

its a small percentage of a small percentage mancie, pubs have gone that far down the pan, of that small % i know quite a few who drink at home now when weather is crap, these are people that did not before the ban.

Eric · 01-09-2009, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Mancie

yes Eric but do people really stay indoors or avoid pubs because they are not allowed to smoke?..I'd say that those who do are a very small percentage..very small.

Agreed ... but are they just shrugging their shoulders, and putting up with what they think is inevitable ....

Many have mentioned on here that the pubs are closing in England at an alarming rate ... does this have anything to do with the smoking issue? It might be the high price of a pint ... but, (and here we go with the stats again) ... what percentage of the average weekly wage is the price of a pint. I know that when I started it was about two bob a pint ... but at that time, a laborer earned only about ten quid a week, give or take, and twenty quid was a real good wage.

The thing that really bugs me about the whole deal is that it is just one aspect of govt. sticking it's nose into things which are none of its goddam business ... trying to govern all the minituae of the everyday lives of free citizens, rather than govern the country.

Mancie · 01-09-2009, 19:14

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Originally Posted by cashman

its a small percentage of a small percentage mancie, pubs have gone that far down the pan, of that small % i know quite a few who drink at home now when weather is crap, these are people that did not before the ban.

Well I'll be honest Cashy and say that anyone who has chosen to stay indoors because of the smoking ban is a wimp..what next..everyone piles down any bit of grass or park bench for the sake of having a fag?.. pathetic..Wetherspoons have had no smoking long before the rules were brought in and I've never seen one of their pubs empty.

accyman · 01-09-2009, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I don't know of anyone who has stopped going to pubs because they can't smoke inside....have smokers stopped using trains, planes, or even taxis because they are not allowed to smoke?..if so then they are pathetic...and I am a smoker.

i can say for sure as a smoker if teh weather is really crap i wont go out because i dont fancy standing in teh rain with my pint and in some cases having to leave the pint inside as your not allowed to take it with you and enjoy a smoke while having a beer

saying that great harwood has some good smoking areas built so its not as bad but generally pubs arnt very well equipped

whats even worse is these minority tobbacco police nazis have the nerve to ask you to move with your ciggarette when in teh smoking area which i then inform them that if they want fresh air they shoudl piff off back inside

even as a non smoker when i gave up i didnt give a hoot about smoking in pubs and i would saythe majority of non smokers couldnt give a toss either because like i said earlier most of them stand outside with tehir smoker buddies and agree the ban is pathetic european bullcrap legislation which our soft arse govenment shoudl have said piff off too just liek a few other countries have

accyman · 01-09-2009, 20:12

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Well I'll be honest Cashy and say that anyone who has chosen to stay indoors because of the smoking ban is a wimp..what next..everyone piles down any bit of grass or park bench for the sake of having a fag?.. pathetic..Wetherspoons have had no smoking long before the rules were brought in and I've never seen one of their pubs empty.

weatherspoons are food pubs arnt they and anyone with and decency would recognise that smoking isnt fair in those kind of pubs serving food to families etc

jaysay · 02-09-2009, 08:43

As I've said before it was a sledgehammer to crack a nut, and I'm a committed none smoker, but life goes no, why should I stand in the way of some one who wants a fag and a pint, we are now tied up with reams of red tape a lot of which could be avoided by a little consideration, but I do agree on a ban where food is sold