None stick pans

[Len]

I use my none stick frying pan most mornings while making myself bacon butts before I go to work. I also like my bacon crispy, more flavour that way I reackon but I wouldn’t say that I have the heat turned up to much (Gas) although there has been the odd occasion (plenty) when I have filled the kitchen with smoke fumes.
I’ll tell you what thou, I do seem to have some sort of full time cold these days. Just maybe this could be the reason, or is it perhaps I’m just Allergic to work. hehe

[cashman]

my missus frys my breakfast every morning and aint got a cold,lol

[chav1]

WARNING

breathing air can cause cancer

picking your nose can cause brain hemerages

water will make your hair fall out


i think ive got the next 3 months or so health scares covered there

[Less]

Originally Posted by chav1

WARNING



i think ive got the next 3 months or so health scares covered there

WARNING

Panic-mongering is bad for your health!

[Bazf]

No one has pointed out that the Convicts have different season times to us, I think its winter down there now, could it be April 1st as well?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Len

I’ll tell you what thou, I do seem to have some sort of full time cold these days. Just maybe this could be the reason, or is it perhaps I’m just Allergic to work. hehe

Start grilling your bacon and see if your cold goes.
We will know the truth then.
It will be about as scientific as Brainiacs on Sky One.

[WillowTheWhisp]

I'm with Pendy on the heavy duty steel. I like a pan I can scrub clean. I have inherited Busman's non-stick frying pan but I'm never happy that it is properly clean as it's one of those with little dimples in the bottom. I also hate cleaning my Rosemary Conley grill (a female version of the George Foreman) as it's impossible to get at all of the surface when it's hot and impossible to clean when it's cold. I tend to microwave my bacon and I too like it crispy. No doubt there'll be dangerous levels of microwave energy in it or something and I'm poisoniong myself with that now.

[pendy]

All new-born babies should be issued with an indestructible card which reads:

Warning. Living is dangerous to your health. It is invariably fatal.

That's got that covered, then.

[WillowTheWhisp]

It's a wonder we ever survived before we knew about all these fatal things isn't it?

[JSmith]

Originally Posted by Len

I use my none stick frying pan most mornings while making myself bacon butts before I go to work. I also like my bacon crispy, more flavour that way I reackon but I wouldn’t say that I have the heat turned up to much (Gas) although there has been the odd occasion (plenty) when I have filled the kitchen with smoke fumes.
I’ll tell you what thou, I do seem to have some sort of full time cold these days. Just maybe this could be the reason, or is it perhaps I’m just Allergic to work. hehe

Len,



I work for a major plastic manufacturer in the R&D department. What's been mentioned is known in the trade a polymer fume fever. It usually affects you at least five hours after you’ve breathed in a sufficient dose of degraded polymer fume. Symptoms are a heavy flu like feeling and shaking like the proverbial sh*tt^£g dog! but they usually last for approx 10 Hrs. I would be surprised if your pan is giving off enough fumes for it to be a problem every time - you do need to be almost setting fire to the Teflon coating for heavy degradation. Your GP would be able to provide a blood test to look for traces of the degradation chemicals if its a major concern.

[SpecialPowers]

Mr Smith, i have never heard as much nonsense in my life. I think you should stick to messing with your little bits of plastic and let the doctors get on with their medical matters. You don't phone a chef when your toilets leaking! REALLY!

[chav1]

Originally Posted by SpecialPowers

You don't phone a chef when your toilets leaking!

i do as i find their call out charges are more reasonable

[JSmith]

Your right special powers, perhaps if you’re a doctor you’d like to have a look at the relevance of this??

(If this is you Gem Bob – I knew it was!!!!)


Some fume will be generated even at the temperatures
reached during the normal hot processing of fluoropolymers such as Teflon
and it is necessary to assume that the resulting fume
will present a potential health hazard. It is essential that
adequate ventilation is provided to prevent exposure in the
workplace. The consequence of overexposure
to the fumes from fluoropolymers decomposing
under these conditions is “Polymer Fume Fever” also
known as “The Shakes”.This is a temporary, influenza like
illness with fever, chills and sometimes a cough.
The illness is also associated with exposure to the decomposition
products produced by smoking tobacco products,
such as cigarettes, which have become contaminated by
fluoropolymer resins, even by trace quantities. It is essential
that smoking and tobacco products be banned in work
areas where fluoropolymer resins are handled.
The three main types of product formed in the decomposition
of fluoropolymers are fluoroalkenes, oxidation products
and low molecular weight fluoropolymer particulates.
In the case of PTFE there are many studies in the published
literature and these report a wide variety of results
for the reasons outlined above.The general pattern, however,
is that the monomer, tetrafluoroethylene, is the principal
gaseous product at the gel point of the polymer
(330°C).As the temperature increases to around 450°C, in
the presence of air, carbonyl fluoride and hydrogen fluoride
become the main products. Also some carbon
monoxide may be formed. Carbonyl fluoride hydrolyses
rapidly in the presence of moist air to hydrogen fluoride
and carbon dioxide. Small amounts of hexafluoropropylene
may also be found at these temperatures.The highly
toxic perfluoroisobutylene has been detected as a minor
product at temperatures above 475°C.When the temperature
reaches about 800°C tetrafluoromethane begins to
form.
There is a similar decomposition pattern for other fluoropolymers.
Decomposition products tend to form at
lower temperatures to a degree which depends on the type
and amount of comonomer in the fluoropolymer. Health
hazards of these products are as follows:
Hydrogen fluoride:The odour threshold of hydrogen fluoride
is significantly less than the occupational exposure
limits which are typically of the order of 1ppm. Inhalation
of hydrogen fluoride at higher concentration will give rise
to symptoms of choking, coughing and severe eye, nose
and throat irritation. In severe cases, and possibly following
a symptomless period, fever, chills, difficulty in breathing,
cyanosis, and pulmonary oedema may develop which may
lead to death. Acute overexposure to hydrogen fluoride
can result in injury to the liver and kidneys.
Carbonyl fluoride: Effects following inhalation, ingestion,
or skin or eye contact with carbonyl fluoride may initially
include: skin irritation with discomfort or rash; eye
corrosion with corneal or conjunctival ulceration; irritation of the upper respiratory passages; or temporary lung
irritation effects with cough, discomfort, difficulty in
breathing, or shortness of breath. Respiratory symptoms
may be delayed for several hours.
Carbon monoxide: An odourless gas which reduces the
oxygen carrying capacity of the blood, resulting in a
decreased capacity for exertion, increased load on the heart
and with severe exposure, unconsciousness and death.
PFIB (perfluoroisobutylene): PFIB is highly toxic by acute
inhalation, and exposure to concentrations above 1ppm
for any significant period can be fatal.
TFE (tetrafluoroethylene): Tetrafluoroethylene is a colourless,
odourless and flammable gas that is very poorly
soluble in water. Tetrafluoroethylene has a very low
toxicity after acute exposure and has no cardiac sensitisation
potential and it has no genotoxic potential in vitro
and in vivo.When administered for a long period, it may
cause toxic effect primarily to the kidney. In a 2-year bioassay
in rats and mice, tetrafluoroethylene caused various
kinds of tumours in the kidney, liver and the haematopoietic
system.These effects were seen at high dosages. Studies
comparing human and animals metabolism suggested that
the risk to human to developing some of the tumours is
low for humans.The current TLV/TWA value is 2 ppm
(ACGIH 2001). Further studies to understand the whole
mechanism are still under evaluation. A multicentre epidemiology
study involving the major producers of TFE is
ongoing.
HFP (hexafluoropropylene): Hexafluoropropylene is a
colourless, odourless gas that is very poorly soluble in
water. Hexafluoropropylene has a low toxicity after acute
exposure. The genotoxicity of the compound was considered
overall negative.When administered for a long period
it may cause toxic effects primarily to the kidney. No
official TLV/TWA has been established by ACGIH. The
producers have set a provisional internal OEL value of
0,5 ppm.

[JSmith]

Get Lost Gem Bob!!

[Sara]

I've had my non-stick pan for almost 22years, so i suppose all the chemicals have been destroyed by, besides which for quite a number of years now i only use it to fry eggs. By the way it is still non-stick.