Northern Parliament

yerself · 06-02-2012, 16:00

Would we get a referendum on EU membership Graham?

East Lancs MP calls for 'northern Parliament' (From Lancashire Telegraph)

AN EAST Lancashire MP has called for a 'northern Parliament' after accusing the Government of abandoning the north.
Hyndburn and Haslingden MP Graham Jones said the difference in job losses between the north and the south showed that the Tory Government was not doing enough.
Mr Jones said he wanted powers devolved from Westminster to the north, through a northern assembly or Parliament.

Boeing Guy · 06-02-2012, 16:27

I wonder if Graham has let power go to his head...
Yet another gravy train

maxthecollie · 06-02-2012, 16:27

It's always been them and us.

Boeing Guy · 06-02-2012, 16:34

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie

It's always been them and us.

Well our MP is now one of Them

Acrylic-bob · 06-02-2012, 16:36

How many bluddy parliaments and assemblies and councils does it take to govern a country that is rapidly going down the gurgler?

This is yet another example of why the Labour Party does not work. Prescott tried foisting regional assemblies on us and got nowhere. Now G Jones's brilliant idea to get us working again is....regional assemblies, sorry, Northern Parliament.

The trick to recovery Graham is in less government, not more. Eejit!

How disappointing.

garinda · 06-02-2012, 17:36

Perhaps he just doesn't fancy going back to the printers.

If the constituency of Hyndburn does disappear.

accyman · 06-02-2012, 17:39

what a complete farce who the hell is thinking these ideas up for him and what is it they are smoking ?

As for abandoning the north it was expected because cameron quite openly stated he hated the north and couldnt understand why people would want to live there so talk about stating the obvious.

anyway if it was put to parliament jones woudl probably vote against it becuse as his track record shows hes likely to change his mind

garinda · 06-02-2012, 17:40

I can just imagine the opening ceremony.

It'll be crocheted gonks, wall-to-wall community art projects, and flash dance mobs a go-go.

Bring it on.

jaysay · 06-02-2012, 19:09

Well maybe he could propose a referendum on the issue, oh hang on a minute referendum and Graham don't really go down well together do they, forget the idea

ToffeeGuy · 06-02-2012, 23:16

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Originally Posted by yerself

Would we get a referendum on EU membership Graham?

East Lancs MP calls for 'northern Parliament' (From Lancashire Telegraph)

AN EAST Lancashire MP has called for a 'northern Parliament' after accusing the Government of abandoning the north.
Hyndburn and Haslingden MP Graham Jones said the difference in job losses between the north and the south showed that the Tory Government was not doing enough.
Mr Jones said he wanted powers devolved from Westminster to the north, through a northern assembly or Parliament.

This is without doubt the most sensible thing Mr Jones has said since he came to office.

If the Scots get independence then England faces perpetual Tory government. The Tories don't understand the North, they don't understand the sense of community that still mostly exists in the North.

As far as the Tories are concerned it's a dog eat dog world, markets dominate and don't help your neighbour. They know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

The North does need more autonomy to maintain the mostly centre left politics of the region. In the North there is such a thing as society.

cashman · 06-02-2012, 23:19

Yeh may just have summat there toffee guy, jurys out.

Wrighty · 06-02-2012, 23:52

What England needs , is an English parliament .. Graham Jones is a deluded fool who is pro EU .. which in my book is anti British & does not serve what is good for the this country .. The man has forgot who he is working for! & has chose to line his pockets & ride the gravy train like rest of the traitors .... why should we be broke up in to regions ? all part of the EU plan to destroy this country

jaysay · 07-02-2012, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Wrighty

What England needs , is an English parliament .. Graham Jones is a deluded fool who is pro EU .. which in my book is anti British & does not serve what is good for the this country .. The man has forgot who he is working for! & has chose to line his pockets & ride the gravy train like rest of the traitors .... why should we be broke up in to regions ? all part of the EU plan to destroy this country

Spot on wrighty, Scotland has a parliament Wales and Northern Island have assemblies, so why not England and let the other carry on on their own. Regional assemblies are a bureaucratic nonsense, why the hell would we want one in the north just to placate outdated left wing thinking, two tier system of local government is bad enough, never mind two tier system of national government, regional government is a baby of the EU, a regime Graham though we shouldn't be allowed to have a say on, your not on Jonesy, your not on

Acrylic-bob · 07-02-2012, 10:41

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Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy

As far as the Tories are concerned it's a dog eat dog world, markets dominate and don't help your neighbour.

Have you read the thread 'Keep your peanut'?

it seems that far from not helping our neighbour, the Tories are determined to help our neighbours whether they want help or not.

Margaret Pilkington · 07-02-2012, 11:11

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Originally Posted by ToffeeGuy

This is without doubt the most sensible thing Mr Jones has said since he came to office.

If the Scots get independence then England faces perpetual Tory government. The Tories don't understand the North, they don't understand the sense of community that still mostly exists in the North.

As far as the Tories are concerned it's a dog eat dog world, markets dominate and don't help your neighbour. They know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

The North does need more autonomy to maintain the mostly centre left politics of the region. In the North there is such a thing as society.

Haven't you heard the phrase 'divide and rule' and the simplest way to do this is to set the people against one another.......while they are fighting themselves, they cannot be in touch with what is going on in the bigger world out there........and they(the politicians) cannot be blamed if we destroy ourselves.

We do not need fragmented government........all government has costs attached to it, officers, administrators, politicians......all want paying so it isn't economic or political sense to advocate such changes.
We need less government not more(and scattered about the place).
We need politicians who care about the place they reperesent......I mean really care....not just issuing sound bites that they think the electorate will swallow without much concrete thought.

It seems to me that the current incumbents care only for lining their own pockets and building some kind of place on the gravy train that is Brussels......and that is what is wrong. They have no feelings for the common man who is the constituent and put the cross on the ballot paper.