Nothing to do with me.... - Page 2

garinda · 09-11-2005, 01:07

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Originally Posted by Doug

You’re a degenerate Mr Rindy…………The mere suggestion that our pro’s use such pleasant places for immoral purposes fill me with dread. The thought of all those apples, plastic bags, skipping ropes and KY bumper bundles. It disgusting I tell you. Disgusting………

It's a fact that Tooting Common has been used by ladies of the night, [and day] since men were on their way south to sort out Napolean and the Frenchies, via the English ports.

In fact I think as well as being direct descendents, some of the 'girls' have been there since the early 1800's.

Doug · 09-11-2005, 01:10

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Originally Posted by garinda

In fact I think as well as being direct descendents, some of the 'girls' have been there since the early 1800's.

It'll be well worn then..................

cashman · 09-11-2005, 13:28

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Originally Posted by Doug

You’re a degenerate Mr Rindy…………The mere suggestion that our pro’s use such pleasant places for immoral purposes fill me with dread. The thought of all those apples, plastic bags, skipping ropes and KY bumper bundles. It disgusting I tell you. Disgusting………

thats why i love him doug pmsl

SPUGGIE J · 09-11-2005, 14:06

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Originally Posted by Doug

You’re a degenerate Mr Rindy…………The mere suggestion that our pro’s use such pleasant places for immoral purposes fill me with dread. The thought of all those apples, plastic bags, skipping ropes and KY bumper bundles. It disgusting I tell you. Disgusting………

Where would we get or laughs from if he changed overnight? Brightens up my day big time.

Less · 09-11-2005, 14:43

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Originally Posted by Uncle Mick

They could have asked me about the open spaces and parks, I think I know most of `em and I come cheap!

Is that why there are grass stains on your back?

Doug · 09-11-2005, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Less

Is that why there are grass stains on your back?

When I stop crying I'll reply.....................

Graham Jones · 09-11-2005, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Gayle

The study by Knight, Kavanagh and Page (KKP) will look at the quality, distribution and use of the spaces.
It will also identify any places where there are too many....the results of the audit will be used to devlop a strategy for managing and devloping green spaces.

I know a bit about this. The Friends of Groups got together to form a Green Spaces Forum [1 rep per group] to pool general info. Subsequently Britciffe and Co decided they wanted to devolve parks to these 'Supa Dupa' Friends of Groups, and the Green Spaces Forum is has been targeted as the messenger to the managers/friends in waiting. The cabinet decided to delegate the consulatncy of this audit to the Green Spaces Forum as part of the local consutation process on this audit. The Council has mulititudes of sites that it is supposedly having trouble managing.

The Green Spaces Forum has been delegated [by Cabinet] to work in an advisory capacity with KPP, who were appointed by the Council. The cost of this consulatancy is based on the site visits [fee per visit] and some other work. I did know the cost but have forgotten [senior moment!]. KPP were chosen ahead of 2 other tenders I think [need to confirm].

There's a site up Ossy that causes problems, Owd Bobs??? [it was one that was 4th or 5th on the list to become a Local Nature Reserve] that has long been the wish of the Ossy Councillors [all Tories] to dispose of and is used as an example of why we need this audit.

This consulatncy work is designed to review all open spaces, open land, parks etc.. in Council ownership and produce a cost/benefit audit.

My opinion is it is an off loading exercise to carry on cutting costs so we can manage to pay off the huge debts [1999/£10m 2005/£27m=+£16m] Cllr Britcliffe has racked up and which has eroded all Council budgets like a bad credit card debt. It may be beneficial to dispose of some land of course but the question remains should this not have been part of an ongoing inhouse management service?

The unchecked debts were the main reason for the £1.8m black hole of projected overspending in 2003/2004; Auditors had reported since 2000 'poor financial controls' at the Council. There was no debt management, so the colosal increase in debts, with 'poor financial management' and the Council rolling the same budgets [with increases] year on year things produced the large 'unknown' overspend. In previous years a different methodolgy of accounting balanced books and as Dan Sherry described it in The Observer, the new method was overprescibed or words to that effect. When the Council looked at the books more carefully, they were staggered to find that ther was a projected overspend of £1.8m. The overspend was compounded by some poor and also neccessary costly spending decisions due to the wage bill exceeding available income.

Gayle · 19-11-2005, 16:35

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Originally Posted by Graham Jones

It may be beneficial to dispose of some land of course but the question remains should this not have been part of an ongoing inhouse management service?

I think this was my point - why buy in consultants to tell us what we already know or what any of the council officers could write a report on themselves. It is ridiculous to hire in additional consultants when we are so deeply in debt.

SPUGGIE J · 19-11-2005, 17:10

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Originally Posted by Gayle

I think this was my point - why buy in consultants to tell us what we already know or what any of the council officers could write a report on themselves. It is ridiculous to hire in additional consultants when we are so deeply in debt.

Got to agree why spend money to tell themselves they were right in the first place. Are they trying to justify the action they will have to take and if they do the deed and there is a backlash that it wasnt their fault. There is no spine there at present. They want the praise for sucess but have no bottle if they are wrong.

park381 · 19-11-2005, 17:22

Is it that the council don't think their officers are professional enough to write such a report.

Gayle · 19-11-2005, 17:33

You have to wonder, don't you Park?

Acrylic-bob · 21-11-2005, 17:19

I have to say, if past performance is any guide, I would not trust any of them to sit the right way round on a lavatory, much less write a report! But then that's just me all over; Sceptical and Cynical.

SPUGGIE J · 21-11-2005, 17:41

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I have to say, if past performance is any guide, I would not trust any of them to sit the right way round on a lavatory, much less write a report! But then that's just me all over; Sceptical and Cynical.

Do we know if they can use the lav? There must be a commitee somewere that decides if this allowable.