Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time - Page 10

andrewb · 08-04-2009, 08:13

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Originally Posted by Neil

That was confusing me as I always thought Graham lived on Cedar Street and not Hodder Street. The name stuck in my head as i used to work with a bloke from Cedar Street. When you look on HBC website it still says he does. You would think they would update the website when a Councillor moves.

Maybe time for whoever is responsible for the HBC website to check all the Councillors addresses as I think there is another one that is out of date as well.

You're not the only one Neil.

I also thought he lived on Cedar street.

Do you own both Graham? When this all started, forgive me I don't know the dates, were you living on Cedar Street, Hodder street or did you move in between? Did you own the house on Hodder Street even if you weren't living there?

Royboy39 · 08-04-2009, 08:32

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Originally Posted by andrewb

You're not the only one Neil.

I also thought he lived on Cedar street.

Do you own both Graham? When this all started, forgive me I don't know the dates, were you living on Cedar Street, Hodder street or did you move in between? Did you own the house on Hodder Street even if you weren't living there?

To my mind it does'nt matter if he lived in Timbucktoo. He declared his interest in Hodder Street.

jaysay · 08-04-2009, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Neil

That was confusing me as I always thought Graham lived on Cedar Street and not Hodder Street. The name stuck in my head as i used to work with a bloke from Cedar Street. When you look on HBC website it still says he does. You would think they would update the website when a Councillor moves.

Maybe time for whoever is responsible for the HBC website to check all the Councillors addresses as I think there is another one that is out of date as well.

That's strange Neil, with councillor Jones always telling use when things are wrong with council Web Sites, one would have thought he would have picked up on this and had it made right immediately

andrewb · 08-04-2009, 08:54

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Originally Posted by jaysay

That's strange Neil, with councillor Jones always telling use when things are wrong with council Web Sites, one would have thought he would have picked up on this and had it made right immediately

It also says Cedar street on Greg Pope's website.

katex · 08-04-2009, 09:11

Still not be amended then, Cllr Jones did mention this fact in one of our threads as :-

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...-st-36235.html

Neil · 08-04-2009, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

To my mind it does'nt matter if he lived in Timbucktoo. He declared his interest in Hodder Street.

I agree, as long as he declared the interest initially.

Councillors declaring an interest in whatever they are doing is an essential part of how local/national government works. Without these rules in place we would open the flood gates for all sorts of unsavoury actions. I am not saying Graham did anything intentionally wrong by the way. From comments on here it looks as though he did declare an interest. The debate appears to be when he did.

jaysay · 08-04-2009, 09:55

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Originally Posted by Neil

I agree, as long as he declared the interest initially.

Councillors declaring an interest in whatever they are doing is an essential part of how local/national government works. Without these rules in place we would open the flood gates for all sorts of unsavoury actions. I am not saying Graham did anything intentionally wrong by the way. From comments on here it looks as though he did declare an interest. The debate appears to be when he did.

It appears with a lot of posts in this thread that the rule of declaring an interest, is nothing to worry about, but it is, as I think all the elected representatives on here will testify to, this rule is there for a very good reason and shouldn't be taken lightly

jaysay · 08-04-2009, 09:57

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Originally Posted by andrewb

It also says Cedar street on Greg Pope's website.

Maybe he has two homes, well seems the trait with Labour politicians at the moment

Neil · 08-04-2009, 10:04

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Maybe he has two homes, well seems the trait with Labour politicians at the moment

Next you will be saying he claims expenses for soft porn films - not that there is anything wrong with porn

cashman · 08-04-2009, 10:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Maybe he has two homes, well seems the trait with Labour politicians at the moment

now thats what i call, treading on thin ice.

jaysay · 08-04-2009, 11:19

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Originally Posted by cashman

now thats what i call, treading on thin ice.

Some of use prefer to skate cashy

jaysay · 08-04-2009, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Neil

Next you will be saying he claims expenses for soft porn films - not that there is anything wrong with porn

Well there is this good one called Deb!!!! oh better not go there

Gayle · 08-04-2009, 15:08

The thing is though, surely, that Cllr Jones lives in the ward that he represents. That's one of the reasons that people become councillors - to represent their neighbours and the area that they live in. It's his job to bring issues in the area that he lives in to the fore. If he wasn't flagging up issues on his street or in his area then he wouldn't be doing his job.

Whilst declaring an interest is one thing, I do think it's turning into a situation where it's a bit unfortunate for neighbours if a Councillor moves into your street - it means that no one wants to do anything for it any more. The Councillor who's moved in won't be able to do anything because they have to declare an interest and back off - and the opposition won't do anything because it will benefit an opposition Councillor.

jaysay · 08-04-2009, 16:06

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Originally Posted by Gayle

The thing is though, surely, that Cllr Jones lives in the ward that he represents. That's one of the reasons that people become councillors - to represent their neighbours and the area that they live in. It's his job to bring issues in the area that he lives in to the fore. If he wasn't flagging up issues on his street or in his area then he wouldn't be doing his job.

Whilst declaring an interest is one thing, I do think it's turning into a situation where it's a bit unfortunate for neighbours if a Councillor moves into your street - it means that no one wants to do anything for it any more. The Councillor who's moved in won't be able to do anything because they have to declare an interest and back off - and the opposition won't do anything because it will benefit an opposition Councillor.

No Gayle you've got that wrong, it could be said that by taking part in this debate he could be gaining a personal advantage if he owns the house on that street, road improvements could have an effect on the house price. Its also there to stop councillors gaining an unfair advantage. I honestly can't see councillor Jones being so stupid as the break the rules, but as they say there's no smoke without fire

cashman · 08-04-2009, 16:23

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Originally Posted by jaysay

No Gayle you've got that wrong, it could be said that by taking part in this debate he could be gaining a personal advantage if he owns the house on that street, road improvements could have an effect on the house price. Its also there to stop councillors gaining an unfair advantage. I honestly can't see councillor Jones being so stupid as the break the rules, but as they say there's no smoke without fire

that to me is twisting to yer own advantage, in my eyes, his letter clearly said as he lives on hodder st, he would be taking no further part in discussions, yet yer implications are otherwise, why does this not surprise me.