Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time - Page 11

Neil · 08-04-2009, 16:41

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Originally Posted by cashman

that to me is twisting to yer own advantage, in my eyes, his letter clearly said as he lives on hodder st, he would be taking no further part in discussions, yet yer implications are otherwise, why does this not surprise me.

Its not the letter that is important. It should have been declared at the Council meeting when the subject was first brought up.

I agree with you Gayle that it is a problem for Councillors when improvements need to be made in their own street/ward. Look at the stick PB gets for improvements in his ward and Ossy in general.

garinda · 08-04-2009, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Neil

Its not the letter that is important. It should have been declared at the Council meeting when the subject was first brought up.

I agree with you Gayle that it is a problem for Councillors when improvements need to be made in their own street/ward. Look at the stick PB gets for improvements in his ward and Ossy in general.

Peter doesn't live in his ward, though I take your point.

Bernard Dawson · 08-04-2009, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Neil

Its not the letter that is important. It should have been declared at the Council meeting when the subject was first brought up.

I agree with you Gayle that it is a problem for Councillors when improvements need to be made in their own street/ward. Look at the stick PB gets for improvements in his ward and Ossy in general.

Which council meeting are you referring too. Where you at the meeting?

Bernard Dawson · 08-04-2009, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Gayle

The thing is though, surely, that Cllr Jones lives in the ward that he represents. That's one of the reasons that people become councillors - to represent their neighbours and the area that they live in. It's his job to bring issues in the area that he lives in to the fore. If he wasn't flagging up issues on his street or in his area then he wouldn't be doing his job.

Whilst declaring an interest is one thing, I do think it's turning into a situation where it's a bit unfortunate for neighbours if a Councillor moves into your street - it means that no one wants to do anything for it any more. The Councillor who's moved in won't be able to do anything because they have to declare an interest and back off - and the opposition won't do anything because it will benefit an opposition Councillor.

Gayle. The only thing that Graham is guilty of is trying to represent the people of Peel Ward.

Graham declared an interest right from the start. He took no part in the decision to go ahead with the scheme. He took no part in any of the meetings to discuss the progress of the scheme.

The decision to spend the money on resurfacing Hodder St was taken by Councillors Paul Barton, Tony Dobson and myself.

Gayle · 08-04-2009, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Robert Owen

Gayle. The only thing that Graham is guilty of is trying to represent the people of Peel Ward.

Absolutely, I agree with you. I think that it's his job to represent his ward, that's why he was elected.

And yes, people do have a go at PB for getting stuff done in his ward and that's wrong as well.

I want my ward councillor to do their absolute best for the ward that I live in. I don't want to be discriminated against if a ward councillor moves onto my street.

Margaret Pilkington · 08-04-2009, 20:57

so if Graham Jones took no part in the decision making on this issue, and declared an interest from the start.......why are these two councillors now making the complaint......especially as the complaint was registered after the event and nothing was said at the time?
It sounds to me like points scoring, and it does nothing for the integrity and the credibility of the councillors involved.

lindsay ormerod · 08-04-2009, 20:59

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

so if Graham Jones took no part in the decision making on this issue, and declared an interest from the start.......why are these two councillors now making the complaint......especially as the complaint was registered after the event and nothing was said at the time?
It sounds to me like points scoring, and it does nothing for the integrity and the credibility of the councillors involved.

Think that about sums it up Margaret, it's all point scoring, due to forthcoming elections by the sound of it!

Bagpuss · 08-04-2009, 21:18

Pathetic utterly pathetic, the potholes only appeared after fatboy Dobson decided to have a snoop up Grahams Jones street, maybe he thought he might find something interesting in his bin.

cashman · 08-04-2009, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Pathetic utterly pathetic, the potholes only appeared after fatboy Dobson decided to have a snoop up Grahams Jones street, maybe he thought he might find something interesting in his bin.

sums up very nicely the tory way of doing things.

Royboy39 · 08-04-2009, 21:45

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Originally Posted by cashman

sums up very nicely the tory way of doing things.

I hope you mean the local tory's......hell of a difference.
I think we have all had a lesson on how local politics operates and the squabbles and bickering of the 'I am better than thou' brigade from both sides......This thread is nothing more than 'Babyhouse'....I blaim the two Tory councillors for this rubbish and I hope it is taken into consideration at the upcoming elections......I do not have to toe the party line for any party and still have a vote, even though I live in Spain, but, taking in the context of this thread, I will sit back and reserve judgement as to who I would choose to represent me and in the absence of a Tory reply, I would lean towards Graham Jones.

Mancie · 08-04-2009, 21:59

Royboy has just pionted out he can vote in any UK general election..and fair enough.. but I how does this work...does Roy's vote count in electing the MP for Hyndburn?.. if so then why does it?.... I don't live in Hyndburn and niether does Roy.. but I can't vote in Hyndburn elections...he can!

Royboy39 · 08-04-2009, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Royboy has just pionted out he can vote in any UK general election..and fair enough.. but I how does this work...does Roy's vote count in electing the MP for Hyndburn?.. if so then why does it?.... I don't live in Hyndburn and niether does Roy.. but I can't vote in Hyndburn elections...he can!

Read my post again Mancie when sober....I said my preference would be Graham Jones in a local election not that I am in position to vote for him.
I am in a position however to vote for Janet Anderson and in the current situation, nothing on this earth would persuade me to vote in that direction.....I would sooner sit in a corner and watch paint dry.

Mancie · 08-04-2009, 22:20

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Read my post again Mancie when sober....I said my preference would be Graham Jones in a local election not that I am in position to vote for him.
I am in a position however to vote for Janet Anderson and in the current situation, nothing on this earth would persuade me to vote in that direction.....I would sooner sit in a corner and watch paint dry.

I've read it already ..I'm not talking about local elections but please enlighten me..you can vote in a General Election for the MP for Hyndburn?...

Royboy39 · 08-04-2009, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I've read it already but please enlighten me..you can vote in a General Election for the MP for Hyndburn?...

No...............................but my daughter and her partner can.

Mancie · 08-04-2009, 22:29

Ok Roy..but I'm confused...
Under current electoral law, any British citizen who is over 18 years of age living overseas and has been on a UK electoral register within the past 15 years can register to vote in UK Parliamentary and European elections.
I was only asking because I was trying to work out how this works..if I left a bourough 15 years ago I would not be allowed to vote in that bourough..so why should someone living abroad be allowed?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/exp...ice-heard.html