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06-04-2009, 20:48
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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I was told by HBC that unadopted roads were nothing to do with them when I complained about ours. Does this mean they were lying? If councillor Jones gets his way I'll certainly be complaining.
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Yes I will be pointing this out to the residents of Emma Street, they have been told the same thing.
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06-04-2009, 20:57
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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Ducks arse....thats a haircut...or it was when I was a lad?
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06-04-2009, 21:07
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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I've criticised in this very thread. No, I wouldn't defend Hitler as you said a while back.
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the difference between you n our illustrious leader andrew is simple, if you think you have misjudged summat, YOU have the balls to say so.
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06-04-2009, 21:11
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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I've criticised in this very thread. No, I wouldn't defend Hitler as you said a while back.
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yes you have, as the thread starter did, n that warrants respect to ya both.
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06-04-2009, 21:27
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
so someone must be telling some little fiblets......I wonder who they might be.
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06-04-2009, 22:30
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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Yes I will be pointing this out to the residents of Emma Street, they have been told the same thing.
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I understand what you are saying but the Council will not be adopting the streets in question.
This is being done through the Peel and Barnfield area council . We only have a budget of £2000 for the three streets, so it won't be resurfaced to the standard of an adopted street. But it will be a lot better than it is now.
What we are hoping to do in Peel Ward could also be done in other area's if their area council chose to spend what money they have in this way.
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06-04-2009, 22:43
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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Originally Posted by Robert Owen
Can I just point out several points on this issue.
The first point is that the decision to offer the chance to resurface Hodder St, Annie St and back Manor St was taking by Peel and Barnfield Area Council not Graham. Graham declared an interest and took no part in the decision.
I along with other colleagues have been trying to get something done about Hodder St and Annie St for years. Finally we have managed to get some money from the area council to get these streets resurfaced.
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If Graham followed the correct procedure then there is nothing to answer.
I do not however agree to spending HBC tax payers money on resurfacing unadopted roads. When you buy a house on such a road you know it is your responsibility to look after the road. If anyone should be paying for this work, apart from the house owners themselves, it should be LCC. They should adopt and sort out the roads.
The two Councils have different responsibilities - roads are not the responsibility of HBC. If you read many posts on here the residents of Hyndburn think HBC do not do what they are responsible for without doing things they are not responsible for.
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06-04-2009, 22:45
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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Originally Posted by Robert Owen
We only have a budget of £2000 for the three streets, so it won't be resurfaced to the standard of an adopted street. But it will be a lot better than it is now.
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So how much would that be for each resident if you split the £2000 by the number of houses?
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06-04-2009, 22:47
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
if you live on an unadopted road/street do you still have to pay council tax or get some kind of reduced bill ?
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06-04-2009, 22:58
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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if you live on an unadopted road/street do you still have to pay council tax or get some kind of reduced bill ?
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Yes, you still pay the full amount. There's no deduction if you live on an unadopted road, and part of your council tax is still sent to the County Council, who have responsibility for the upkeep of streets and roads in the borough.
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06-04-2009, 23:01
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
There's an unadopted road at the bottom of Monk st last year all the massive pot holes were filled in and at last the road was usable again, unfortunately there is a school on the next street.
The parents calling to drop off and pick up their children found it a blessing instead of all them blocking that street they used the unadopted road to relieve the congestion they caused outside the school, with the surface not being tarmac within 2 months they had worn through the surface and it has potholes again making it unusable for them and also for local residents.
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06-04-2009, 23:05
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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Originally Posted by Less
There's an unadopted road at the bottom of Monk st last year all the massive pot holes were filled in and at last the road was usable again, unfortunately there is a school on the next street.
The parents calling to drop off and pick up their children found it a blessing instead of all them blocking that street they used the unadopted road to relieve the congestion they caused outside the school, with the surface not being tarmac within 2 months they had worn through and the surface and it has potholes again making it unusable for them and also for local residents.
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true its a real mess once more, would have thought it wasn't rocket science to erect bollards across the park road end, to stop em driving through, as the surface was not suitable fer 3 point turns at speed.
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06-04-2009, 23:08
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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Yes, you still pay the full amount. There's no deduction if you live on an unadopted road, and part of your council tax is still sent to the County Council, who have responsibility for the upkeep of streets and roads in the borough.
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then to put it simply somone wether it be HBC or LCC shoud sortthese roads out
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06-04-2009, 23:10
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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then to put it simply somone wether it be HBC or LCC shoud sortthese roads out
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getting one of em to take responsibility would be a result.
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06-04-2009, 23:13
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Re: Now...This is silly and a complete waste of time
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If Graham followed the correct procedure then there is nothing to answer.
I do not however agree to spending HBC tax payers money on resurfacing unadopted roads. When you buy a house on such a road you know it is your responsibility to look after the road. If anyone should be paying for this work, apart from the house owners themselves, it should be LCC. They should adopt and sort out the roads.
The two Councils have different responsibilities - roads are not the responsibility of HBC. If you read many posts on here the residents of Hyndburn think HBC do not do what they are responsible for without doing things they are not responsible for.
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It's not the Council that's preposing to do this. Its Peel and Barnfield area council that's putting this forward.,
We have tried to get the streets adopted in the past, but it hasn't been possible.
Ossy Area Council could also do something similar, if that's how they decide to spend what money they have.
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