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06-02-2009, 13:07
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Re: Nurse supended for offering to pray
spot on Jaysay!
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06-02-2009, 13:16
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Re: Nurse supended for offering to pray
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I don't think it's anything to do with the p.c. brigade, or freedom of speech, after all a persons beliefs are a fragile part of humanity, if I believe in one thing and you believe in another there should be mutual respect.
If a patient is treated by an atheist or a member of Gods community then their beliefs should be respected by the person administering care, it is not the Nurses duty to force her beliefs onto the patient even if she, (the nurse), is doing it for what she considers to be the best reasons, the patient is in a vulnerable position and has his/her human rights or freedom of opinion to be cared for as well.
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thats the whole "Crux" of this affair, from what i have read or can gather, forcing beliefs was not the case, theres a world of difference between that n compassion.
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06-02-2009, 14:32
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Re: Nurse suspended for offering to pray
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Originally Posted by jaysay
It now appears that this nurse has been told she can resume work, about time to, should never have been suspended in the first place.
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Can't agree with you there Jaysay, pleased she has been re-instated, but think it was well worth the investigation. They have called it off only due to pressure from the public.
The patient, although she did not report it officially, did feel the need to mention to another nurse, so must have been a little more than just offering a prayer, as she was concerned would upset other patients.
This quote from the nurse says it all to me ...
'Mrs Petrie has always insisted that she has never forced her beliefs on anyone.
The Baptist, who became a Christian ten years ago after her mother died, said her supplications had real effects on patients, including a Catholic woman whose urine infection cleared up days after she said a prayer.'
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06-02-2009, 14:59
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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Re: Nurse suspended for offering to pray
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Originally Posted by katex
'Mrs Petrie has always insisted that she has never forced her beliefs on anyone.
The Baptist, who became a Christian ten years ago after her mother died, said her supplications had real effects on patients, including a Catholic woman whose urine infection cleared up days after she said a prayer.'
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Hmmm, Mrs Petrie?
When she cured the bladder infection she must have been working on a different culture than what the Petri dishes are usually used for!
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06-02-2009, 17:27
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Re: Nurse suspended for offering to pray
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Originally Posted by latex
Can't agree with you there Jaysay, pleased she has been re-instated, but think it was well worth the investigation. They have called it off only due to pressure from the public.
The patient, although she did not report it officially, did feel the need to mention to another nurse, so must have been a little more than just offering a prayer, as she was concerned would upset other patients.
This quote from the nurse says it all to me ...
'Mrs Petrie has always insisted that she has never forced her beliefs on anyone.
The Baptist, who became a Christian ten years ago after her mother died, said her supplications had real effects on patients, including a Catholic woman whose urine infection cleared up days after she said a prayer.'
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No patient complained kate, it was other puratanical nosy dogooders that did that, I would agree if a patient had objected but seeing they didn't what case had she to answer in the first place, there are far more important things need sorting out in the NHS never mind going on unnecessary witch hunts
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06-02-2009, 18:23
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Re: Nurse supended for offering to pray
Well, Jaysay, there are some interesting remarks coming from her in the last report :-
'It's very difficult for me not to ask patients if they want me to pray for them when I feel that prayer works for the sick. It's a matter of conscience to me. I should not have to choose between being a Christian or being a nurse.'
Don't think she will stop despite this incident .. and almost holding the authority to a type of blackmail.
NHS staff face the sack if they discuss religion with patients (please don't tell St Bart, St Thomas etc) | Mail Online
Anyway, who keeps changing my name in quotes ?
Methinks you have hidden depths we should know about Jaysay.
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06-02-2009, 20:10
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Re: Nurse supended for offering to pray
Surprise, surprise, she has now admitted live on the News that she will not give up this practice of offering prayer ... silly cow.
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06-02-2009, 20:13
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Nurse supended for offering to pray
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Originally Posted by katex
Surprise, surprise, she has now admitted live on the News that she will not give up this practice of offering prayer ... silly cow.
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if thats the case then yea ...silly cow. will always give folk benefit of doubt. when they shoot themselves stuff em cretins.
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07-02-2009, 11:02
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Re: Nurse supended for offering to pray
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Originally Posted by katex
Well, Jaysay, there are some interesting remarks coming from her in the last report :-
'It's very difficult for me not to ask patients if they want me to pray for them when I feel that prayer works for the sick. It's a matter of conscience to me. I should not have to choose between being a Christian or being a nurse.'
Don't think she will stop despite this incident .. and almost holding the authority to a type of blackmail.
NHS staff face the sack if they discuss religion with patients (please don't tell St Bart, St Thomas etc) | Mail Online
Anyway, who keeps changing my name in quotes ?
Methinks you have hidden depths we should know about Jaysay.
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Sorry kate, when I run my spell check it changes katex to latex, I usually change it back, but must have forgot this time, again sorreeeeeeee
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07-02-2009, 11:06
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Re: Nurse supended for offering to pray
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Originally Posted by katex
Surprise, surprise, she has now admitted live on the News that she will not give up this practice of offering prayer ... silly cow.
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I actually think that she's pushing it a tad now, can't defend her if she does it again, she would be pure stupid
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07-02-2009, 11:18
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Re: Nurse supended for offering to pray
I'm sure there are more people who have accepted her offer than declined it for finding it offensive.
Nice to see someone with a bit of conviction. There are people all over the world who are segregated and punished for doing things like speaking when they aren't spoken to, singing, dancing and so on and we'd praise them for asserting their right to do these things which don't harm people.
Good on her for offering her prayers, I think it's nice.
Of course I'm a Catholic though so what would I know
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