Oh dear, Mr. Jones - Page 2

cashman · 02-05-2005, 19:31

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Unless Graham comes on the site to give us his side of the story then decide for yourselves to use a phrase Graham uses often "in my honest opinion", the info I posted was correct and also "in my honest opinion", I suspect that he has been advised to lay of the controversial stuff and not post until after the election. I have taken a lot of crap over my recent postings and I'm genuinely upset if I caused Graham any trouble but in future I'm still going to post what I see and hear along with my opinions if I know it's true, unless I'm banned.

hear hear if you can't give an honest opinion,then we all might as well jump in the cut.

THOTH · 02-05-2005, 20:03

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Originally Posted by PurpleLass

As a relative new comer to this site I have to admit that I found it daunting at first. There are a few (and I stress 'a few') people who can behave like bullies and if you disagree with them they get quite aggressive. However, after being here for a few weeks now I've realised that they really are in the minority.

Due to my present work location I am only able to have a good browse at weekends and have just come across the above.

I am realy very puzzled as to how one can be bullied by words and hope that PurpleLass will elucidate, preferably by giving an example.

Voltaire`s Dictum has been quoted a number of times recently and I would have thought that it would serve as a "cornerstone" or "foundation" to attitudes between posters.

WillowTheWhisp · 03-05-2005, 08:10

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

I suspect that he has been advised to lay of the controversial stuff and not post until after the election.

It would be a shame if that's the case, and as far as I'm concerned somewhat self-defeating too because I am more likely to respect a person or politiical party who can stand up and be counted.

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I'm still going to post what I see and hear along with my opinions if I know it's true, unless I'm banned.

I hope you do, after all you're not the first to have reported what has been said elsewhere. Graham has actually done that himself. It's a pity he hasn't been back to give us his two pennorth on this subject.

PurpleLass · 03-05-2005, 13:14

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Originally Posted by THOTH

Due to my present work location I am only able to have a good browse at weekends and have just come across the above.

I am realy very puzzled as to how one can be bullied by words and hope that PurpleLass will elucidate, preferably by giving an example.

Voltaire`s Dictum has been quoted a number of times recently and I would have thought that it would serve as a "cornerstone" or "foundation" to attitudes between posters.

It is quite easy to bully with words, by calling people's views stupid or by calling people silly for believing in those views. Anyway, like I said, I think people like that are in the minority and in most cases it's down to passionate views which I have to applaud.

Anyway, back to Cllr Jones - it is quite possible that he has either decided to cool it on the site until the election or is simply too busy campaigning to be able to post.

Acrylic-bob · 03-05-2005, 13:36

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Originally Posted by PurpleLass

It is quite easy to bully with words, by calling people's views stupid or by calling people silly for believing in those views.

Forgive me, but I was always under the impression that us northerners were above such effete southern nonsense. We are justly famed for calling a spade, a spade! When I was younger there was a rhyme I was taught at school which ran something along the lines of: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."

What is wrong with saying that an idea or a statement is stupid, if that is what one thinks it is? What would the grandee's of Political Correctness have us call it?

The point of complaint against Councillor Jones, as I see it, is that he had the temerity and lack of taste to describe the majority of board members as right wing and members of the BNP without any evidence to support his statements and has since decided to absent himself from the board, thus depriving aggrieved members of the board the opportunity to challenge his assertions. That isn't bullying, it is moral cowardice and is something that all politicians are pretty adept at.

cashman · 03-05-2005, 13:37

possible also its easy to use the election as a screen who knows?

vorlon24 · 03-05-2005, 13:48

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Forgive me, but I was always under the impression that us northerners were above such effete southern nonsense.

I object to being referred to as a degenerate.

Where's your evidence to support this, A-b?

PurpleLass · 03-05-2005, 14:12

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What is wrong with saying that an idea or a statement is stupid, if that is what one thinks it is? What would the grandee's of Political Correctness have us call it?

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I think it's more or less ok to call an idea stupid if you qualify that it's simply your view (although I wouldn't say that about anyone else's opinions). But to call an idea stupid without qualifying that it is only your opinion is actually an insult - it may seem stupid to you but it may not seem stupid to someone else. It's all down to manners and politeness, and it's downright rude to dismiss someone's views simply because you disagree with them.

Bagpuss · 03-05-2005, 22:46

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Originally Posted by PurpleLass

Anyway, back to Cllr Jones - it is quite possible that he has either decided to cool it on the site until the election or is simply too busy campaigning to be able to post.

Had an interesting chat to the Labour canvassers who called yesterday who told me Graham wasn't with them but wouldn't say why not. After a good 15 minutes of chatting I left them with the statement that I wouldn't be voting for them due to that fact that I thought they had silenced one of their best councillors and if that's how they worked I had no faith in them, they left speechless.

cashman · 03-05-2005, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Had an interesting chat to the Labour canvassers who called yesterday who told me Graham wasn't with them but wouldn't say why not. After a good 15 minutes of chatting I left them with the statement that I wouldn't be voting for them due to that fact that I thought they had silenced one of their best councillors and if that's how they worked I had no faith in them, they left speechless.

is it really them who have silenced him bagpuss?i have never had much faith in the local labour for many years but i certainly wouldn't sway in my vote,i agree that he's a good councillor and if thats the case it sucks.

Bagpuss · 03-05-2005, 23:10

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Originally Posted by cashman

is it really them who have silenced him bagpuss?i have never had much faith in the local labour for many years but i certainly wouldn't sway in my vote,i agree that he's a good councillor and if thats the case it sucks.

I was having a bit of fun with them as I'm not happy at whats going on, I only told them that I wouldn't be voting to try and extract a bit more info, seems Graham went to a gig instead of canvassing.