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05-06-2007, 17:40
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Re: Olympic Logo
They could have used the Tories old torch logo, now they are no longer carrying it, and are no longer conservative.
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05-06-2007, 20:02
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Re: Olympic Logo
It gets worse - part of the promo video will have to be scrapped because it has caused people to have epyleptic seizures!
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05-06-2007, 20:05
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Re: Olympic Logo
I think the epileptic seizures took place when it was being designed.
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05-06-2007, 20:26
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Re: Olympic Logo
Here's the creator's website where you can play with the logo! WOW!
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05-06-2007, 20:30
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Re: Olympic Logo
Just like those jigsaws for under 5s
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05-06-2007, 20:57
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Re: Olympic Logo
Ok i just clicked on that link you put up willow - no wonder there should be a warning on that for people who are photo sensitive. Im not photo sensitive but i got the warnings for disco's etc not to look into the lights and i ended up shutting the site down.
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05-06-2007, 20:58
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Re: Olympic Logo
Sorry, I really should have put a warning on that link.
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05-06-2007, 21:42
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Re: Olympic Logo
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Let's face it, the Olympic committee is there for the taking. They even "forgot" to allow for the 17.5% VAT rate on construction work. No wonder the costs are spiralling out of control.
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Factually incorrect. The issue with the VAT was between 2 different Government departments, the Treasury and the DCMS. In theory its all Government money so the charging (or not) of VAT is purely a paper exercise, but like everything else in this Country, the press and public are very quick to knock down whatever they can.
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05-06-2007, 21:47
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Re: Olympic Logo
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Originally Posted by the funk
In theory its all Government money
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Factually incorrect. It's actually all OUR money.
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05-06-2007, 21:48
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Re: Olympic Logo
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Originally Posted by Gayle
What you don't understand is the amount of employment it has already provided. A design agency has been employed, probably four or five account handlers plus additional staff, consultation has been held, meetings with key people and one poor young trainee to do all the photocopying. Isn't this what they said would happen - the Olympics would create jobs!
And now here's my real answer - it's crap, looks like crap and is a waste of money! It's providing work, yes, but for a London company - none of this benefitting the rest of the country.
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So the Olympics won't benefit the rest of the UK?
Is the football going to be played at Old Trafford? (answer - yes)
Are athletes and spectators all going to stay in London?(answer - no. They will stay in various parts of the UK, athletes will need facilities to train on and get used to English weather', spectators and tourists will not all be able to stay in London. I am sure many will enter the country through Manchester or Liverpool and stay in the North West and travel down to see the games)
Will all the jobs go to people in London? (answer - no - A North West firm has won the tender to supply all the toilet roll for the Olympics, they will need extra staff to meet the demand.)
Is the logo any good?(answer - in my opinion its not that good, bbc website has some very good alternatives sent in by members of the public which I think are better)
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05-06-2007, 21:51
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Re: Olympic Logo
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
Factually incorrect. It's actually all OUR money.
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Ok, yes. But at the point I am referring to it is in the Governments hands. The point was more aimed at the fact it is not the mistake of Seb Coe and his bid team, but the Government.
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05-06-2007, 21:56
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Re: Olympic Logo
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Originally Posted by Less
None of us are clever enough to second guess what will be 'in', and what will be 'out', by the year 2012.
The Olympics is supposed to be based on a tradition of fair and equal sport for all, so what is wrong in this case instead of trying to be 'trendy', why could we not have just had a logo that reflects the high principles of the games themselves?
Or are we just doing this for the money????
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The creation of the brand is to generate cash! we are going to see it plastered on t-shirts, keyrings, and anything you can think of, and without the cash being generated through the sponsorship there is no show!
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05-06-2007, 22:08
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Re: Olympic Logo
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The point was more aimed at the fact it is not the mistake of Seb Coe and his bid team, but the Government.
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The bid organisers put the budget together. They were the ones who put in an initial estimate of £2.38 billion for the construction of Olympic facilities, while rashly assuming that there would be no VAT to pay on it. If they had done their homework more carefully, they would have realised that EU laws make VAT payment on projects of this nature mandatory. No wonder that a trendy design outfit have just relieved them of £400,000 for a dodgy logo!
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05-06-2007, 22:37
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Re: Olympic Logo
[QUOTE=the funk;432455]So the Olympics won't benefit the rest of the UK?
Don't forget the Weymouth and Portland sailing events.
When I did a catering exhibition in Bournemouth couple of months ago, the hotel owners were already predicting full occupancy and buying from UK companies, which will have a huge knock on effect to other industries. e.g. crockery, cutlery, food , linen/textile , furniture, entertainment, you name it, it was there.
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05-06-2007, 23:11
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Re: Olympic Logo
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Originally Posted by the funk
The creation of the brand is to generate cash! we are going to see it plastered on t-shirts, keyrings, and anything you can think of, and without the cash being generated through the sponsorship there is no show!
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And which part of this quango do you represent? I am all for the games, and the possibility that they may help create an extra boost to our economy, however there is no way I could come on as a new member just to defend such an obvious mis-use of funds as this logo.
The original principle of the games is for nation to compete against nation (for the honour of competing), not to see who is daft enough to be ripped off by buying a really naff baseball cap with a stupid logo on it.
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