One for cashy! - Page 2

Royboy39 · 23-03-2009, 22:00

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Originally Posted by cashman

why would ya be suprised? i say as i see it right or wrong its that simple,n thats how i see it. Compromise to me, shows how little knowledge ya have about why the dispute happened, if it was about money, i could agree with you, but was nowt to do with money, it was about saving peoples lively hoods everyone is well aware scargill used the wrong tactics, what is beyond dispute is the guy was right, he even underestimated the job losses, what compromise can be in destroyed communities? please enlighten me.

Scargill chose to take on the Government of the day and lost.
Whole communities are being desimated now with job losses, without compensation. We hear of Members of this forum looking for and applying for jobs and falling at the first hurdle.
The miners strike has long gone, and yes I was round at the time.
I think our thoughts should on the current situation and the future whatever that may bring?

cashman · 23-03-2009, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Scargill chose to take on the Government of the day and lost.
Whole communities are being desimated now with job losses, without compensation. We hear of Members of this forum looking for and applying for jobs and falling at the first hurdle.
The miners strike has long gone, and yes I was round at the time.
I think our thoughts should on the current situation and the future whatever that may bring?

well sod off to another thread,n ya will find things like that, twas not me who started this thread, so why quote me? unless ya think its the boys together.

cashman · 23-03-2009, 23:20

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Originally Posted by entwisi

why are you deciding what I would or wouldn't do? You simply don't know enough about me to say anything like that and I'm surprised at you for making such a remark..

as that is a subject very close to my heart, as you are well aware since that conversation in the arden, why are you deciding what to try n wind me up with fer a laugh? as clive dunn says in "Dads Army".......... they dont like it up em!

entwisi · 24-03-2009, 07:33

I posted a link to independant stats that showed that contary to popular belief Maggies reign wasn't detrimental to coal output despite all the propaganda thats often spouted.

I know you are sensitive in this area but does that mean we should not discuss it? If that was the case AW would be an empty forum. It still doesn't give you teh right to decide and state openly what I would or wouldn't do, you were wrong to do that.

You know me, I don't 'wind people up' for fun. I do however feel that information and situations always have two sides to them and are up for debate. I'd also point out that a lot of AW members are too young to recall much if anything about this period in our History and by talking/debating their knowledge will be increased.

The age old saying is learn from your past.........

cashman · 24-03-2009, 09:17

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Originally Posted by entwisi

BBC NEWS | Magazine | In the red corner, Scargill. In the blue, Thatcher

Mmm, so Maggie wasn't so bad for teh mining industry after all.........................

thats not a wind up? geez i must be losing it.

cant see any young members educating themselves on this yet.

plus there was also a thread on this very subject just lately. so if that aint a wind up or attempt at one, why not add yer comment to that. sorry do not buy it at all.

cashman · 24-03-2009, 09:37

How miners' strike twice came close to being settled | Politics | The Guardian the compromise you speak of was there, not by hearsay, but released "Whitehall" papers n agreed upon, till the cow killed it stone dead.

MargaretR · 24-03-2009, 09:43

Governments mess with history all the time. Even the Romans did it when they described us celts as barbarians.
It is all propaganda - best to believe those who witnessed it - and they can pass it on to the next generation.

cashman · 24-03-2009, 09:49

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Governments mess with history all the time. Even the Romans did it when they described us celts as barbarians.
It is all propaganda - best to believe those who witnessed it - and they can pass it on to the next generation.

perfectly true n the sensible thing IMHO, many choose not too though, some actually think they know more than those involved.

Bernard Dawson · 24-03-2009, 09:51

The miners went on strike in 1984 in protest against pit closures, which had been announced by the coal board. There were areas that weren't effected by the closures. But the communities that were effected were left devastated, and many have still not recovered.

The Tory Government of the time turned the dispute political, because they would not let the coal board find a settlement, that was acceptable to both the miners and the coal board.

The miners were essentially trying to protect jobs and also their communities. Thatcher wasn't interested, she wanted complete capitulation by the miners.

planetsusie · 24-03-2009, 10:47

Thing is there is still lots of coal lying in many places which will at some time have to be sourced isn't there?