Ooooh, I like a good funeral.

[Boeing Guy]

Gynn, John Major privatised the Railways in 1993 thru 1997. Maggie opposed the privatisation of British Rail, saying it 'would be waterloo for the government'

Regarding the Council House issue, it can be said it empowers people and gives them aspirations, my Grandpartents bought theirs and in selling it several years later were able to buy a nice bungalow in Birkdale.

[gynn]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Pray tell, who would you have make the judgement of who receives a state funeral and who doesn't?

Am I being naive in hoping that there are enough people in positions of power to gauge public opinion of whether a state funeral for a specific individual would be a good or bad thing?

Yes they might think someone deserves one, but if it is going to provoke a wave of arguments, bad feeling and even public misbehaviour, they won't do it.

[susie123]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Regarding the Council House issue, it can be said it empowers people and gives them aspirations, my Grandpartents bought theirs and in selling it several years later were able to buy a nice bungalow in Birkdale.

Yes I agree but measures should still be taken to replenish the stock of social housing.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes Gynn.....I think you are being naive.
Perhaps the only person who can't be bought is the Monarch.....but then that would perhaps not sit well with those who do not like the Royals.
I can't think of anyone I would trust....not someone who wouldn't subvert it for their own purposes......yes, I know....I need to take another anti cynical pill.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Did Winston Churchill or any other "great" PM ever get one?

The boat, used in his funeral, the Havengore, was up for sale for a million pounds, in 2005.

British Pathe - WORLD IN REMEMBRANCE

Churchill's funeral boat returns to Thames with £1m price tag | UK news | The Guardian

January '65.

One in, me.

One out, him.

Pity I don't believe in reincarnation.

It would explain why I'm always giving people a two fingered salute.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by gynn

Am I being naive in hoping that there are enough people in positions of power to gauge public opinion of whether a state funeral for a specific individual would be a good or bad thing?

You could always call for a referendum.

To gauge public opinion.

Oh, hang on.

You don't believe in them.

[accyman]

on the behalf of anyone who ever had a poll tax bill , was imprisoned for been poor and unable to afford their poll tax bill and also on behalf of those poor children who watched their fathers beaten infront of them in their homes by police on her orders i will gladly burn the bitch alive now for free

[gynn]

Originally Posted by accyman

on the behalf of anyone who ever had a poll tax bill , was imprisoned for been poor and unable to afford their poll tax bill and also on behalf of those poor children who watched their fathers beaten infront of them in their homes by police on her orders i will gladly burn the bitch alive now for free

There are enough people who agree with your sentiments (if not the violence of your solution!) to make a state funeral a complete non starter.

[accyman]

i think it would cost way too much in extra policeing trying to keep it peacefull alone to justify it in these hard times.Although i dont see the point in protesting at someone who is dead there is an element out there that would gladly use her funeral as an excuse to have a ding dong with the police.I dont see the point in inviting trouble the woman was very much a hated and despised person by a lot of people and giving her this unwarranted glorification is just asking for trouble.

Chuck her in a hole and letthe worms have their pound of flesh and be done with it

if that dosnt sway any die hard tory think of it as denying tony blair a photo opportunity because im pretty sure he will be attending lol

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

Does it really matter which way the Belgrano was sailing? We were at war.
It was or could be a threat, to our ships and lads. Why don't we ask those fortunate enough to have survived the HMS Sheffield attack? Or maybe Simon Weston?

Seams reasonable enough to me does that BG

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by susie123

She also introduced the right to buy council houses which has led to a severely depleted stock of social housing today.

Funny thing is Labour never reversed the legislation when they held the reins of power and they had long enough to think about it

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by accyman

i think it would cost way too much in extra policeing trying to keep it peacefull alone to justify it in these hard times.Although i dont see the point in protesting at someone who is dead there is an element out there that would gladly use her funeral as an excuse to have a ding dong with the police.I dont see the point in inviting trouble the woman was very much a hated and despised person by a lot of people and giving her this unwarranted glorification is just asking for trouble.

Chuck her in a hole and letthe worms have their pound of flesh and be done with it

if that dosnt sway any die hard tory think of it as denying tony blair a photo opportunity because im pretty sure he will be attending lol

Oh come on accyman it wouldn't be a show without Punch

[maxthecollie]

set her on fire and send her down the Ganges

[accyman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Oh come on accyman it wouldn't be a show without Punch

ohhh yes it would .....( in panto voice)

[annesingleton]

I've just mentioned this thread to my partner who reckons that Whinney Hill tip would be too good for her - I must say I'm inclined to agree.