Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre - Page 6

garinda · 02-03-2010, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

Funny enough, I nearly suggested a name change for the Civic Theatre in a meeting with Gayle, to something like Hyndburn Civic Theatre.

I think that's a very good idea.

It's the only theatre in the borough, and is funded by people from all areas of Hyndburn, so makes perfect sense to me.

garinda · 02-03-2010, 01:04

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Originally Posted by Neil

Do you think we should rename Ossy Mills so people wont just think its for the people of Oswaldtwistle?

That's a commercial concern, and isn't funded by the tax payers of the borough.

garinda · 02-03-2010, 01:10

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Originally Posted by katex

Accrington Stanley does belong to just Accrington basically, as does Ossy Mills to Oswaldtwistle .. private enterprises. The theatre is an HBC run facility !!

He's not long out of the Ribble Valley, and perhaps hasn't heard of some other football teams that represent the towns in Hyndburn, such as Great Harwood Town F.C, Oswaldtwistle St. Mary's F.C., and Rishton United F.C. etc.

jaysay · 02-03-2010, 10:36

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

thats good, what about arts and textiles and arrange school visits ,something about the local history maybe even in conjunction with ossy mills.was there not some kind of white work people used to make before the industrial revolution embroidery and industrial polyester just an idea..

Great idea CMS that woud be of benefit o future genertions

jaysay · 02-03-2010, 10:39

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Originally Posted by garinda

Accrington and Districts Community Theatre and Arts Centre sounds quite snappy.

And so is a crocodile sandwich Rindi

Neil · 02-03-2010, 12:14

I have it on good authority that the Civic Theatre does not have the word Oswaldtwistle in its title anyway, it is part of its address. This can be seen on HBC's website here and here

The fact that it is know as Ossy Civic Theatre is because of its location.

cmonstanley · 02-03-2010, 12:16

what about lancashire civic theatre..

jaysay · 02-03-2010, 16:05

Have you noticed its the Clayton mod at have stirred it again

Acrylic-bob · 02-03-2010, 16:59

I have a problem with all this Quango directed, lottery funded, liberal, social engineering 'ARTS' drivel.

And my problem is that, despite making an awful lot of noise and providing employment for those among us who cannnot create wealth but merely consume it, it leaves behind it very little of any intrinsic worth. It's aims and scope are short term. And, despite the arguments of its proponents to the contrary, delivered at mindnumbing length and with wearying enthusiasm, it does very little to equip anyone in its target audience to do anything of any significance once the funding has run out and the the focus shifts to the next set of government dictated targets.

The current jamboree, kicked off with the Liverpool City of Culture extravaganza and, according to the Arts Council England, North West's Mission Statement, the three years from 2008-2011 are about "great art for everyone".

And so, as a result of a successful bid, £1.6 million has been allocated to Hyndburn and will now be spent refurbishing the Civic Theatre and also has to ensure the delivery of the governments directive that "all children and young people will have the chance to engage in at least five hours a week of high-quality culture in and out of school".

I have no argument with the premise that the vast majority of our children are uncultured brats, I see more than enough evidence of that on a daily basis. But I do not see how the aims of "great art for everyone" and "at least five hours a week of high-quality culture " can be delivered for what amounts to no more than £18.82 per person in the borough, over a three year period.

In a report in The Telegraph on 18/09/2008, the plans for the theatre were said to envisage that "the area would be mainly used for drama, dance, music and film but could also be used by youth groups, activity classes such as yoga, children’s karate groups or by school drama classes.The downstairs area would be transformed with a new day and night cafe bar and an opened-up foyer as well as an office for the new theatre staff. The building as a whole would have disabled access throughout, including access back stage."

So now we know what constitutes "High Quality Culture" and "Great Art for Everyone" in the borough of Hyndburn: the same as what we had before only this time with a new bar and disabled access. And what happens to the place once the circus has moved on and re-decoration or new equipment are needed?

I don't want Gayle to think that I am unappreciative of her efforts, I am not. I wish we had more like her - really, I do. It's just that creativity cannot be commanded. Government Dictat does not create ART nor do committees. Giving a kid access to a video camera might keep him or her occupied for a little while but, it will never produce the next Ingmar Bergman.

katex · 02-03-2010, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Neil

I have it on good authority that the Civic Theatre does not have the word Oswaldtwistle in its title anyway, it is part of its address. This can be seen on HBC's website here and here

The fact that it is know as Ossy Civic Theatre is because of its location.

No, that sounds like it is a theatre that belongs to Oswaldtwistle.

I agree that the title Civic Theatre, Oswaldtwistle is creeping in slowly Neil, however, even our Leader started off a letter in February with:-

"Hyndburn Borough Council is currently refurbishing the ground floor of Oswaldtwistle Civic Theatre"

Neil · 02-03-2010, 18:16

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Originally Posted by katex

No, that sounds like it is a theatre that belongs to Oswaldtwistle.

Get a grip girl

katex · 02-03-2010, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

It's just that creativity cannot be commanded. Government Dictat does not create ART nor do committees. Giving a kid access to a video camera might keep him or her occupied for a little while but, it will never produce the next Ingmar Bergman.

I don't think it is a matter of creating creativity A-B, we have lots of talented young people in our area ... just that their naturalness for creativity needs recognising and encouraging to be brought out by other more experienced people, and bouncing off their own peers to give them a platform/level for their talents.

Acrylic-bob · 02-03-2010, 18:51

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Originally Posted by katex

just that their naturalness for creativity needs recognising and encouraging to be brought out by other more experienced people, and bouncing off their own peers

That surely is the purpose of sending them to school, isn't it? 'Education', from the latin, "educare", meaning, 'to lead out'

Gayle · 02-03-2010, 21:10

A-B - we didn't get the £1.6m funding. It is only the ground floor that is being refurbished with HBC capital investment.

It will be run like a business so will in time make profit for HBC - in the same way that other public buildings are supposed to.

Whilst I agree that you could give a talentless oik a video camera and you will not create Ingmar Bergman, the opposite also applies that if you give someone with talent a camera there is the outside possibility that you might create the next Danny Boyle.

We have a lot of talent in the area and to nurture it is a good thing. Whether people like it or not, there is a lot of money in the Arts for actors, directors, designers, lighting, sound engineers etc (and not all Arts Council funding). Just because we live in Oswaldtwistle it doesn't mean that some of our young people shouldn't have the best possible opportunities available.

It is nothing like we 'had before' A-B. We don't have anything like this facility and this provision already. There are a few good youth groups but they don't offer training in behind the scenes skills - directing, sound, lighting, video etc that this facility will be offering.

As for the name - Civic Arts Centre and Civic Theatre I think - Oswaldtwistle is part of the address.

Acrylic-bob · 03-03-2010, 03:48

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