Oswaldtwistle Moor - Page 3

davemac · 28-04-2012, 12:37

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Originally Posted by susie123

Have you ever had red k that's been signed?? Cos I haven't - always anonymous!

I have only sent bad k twice and both times I signed them, one to the person complaining, who is also on my ignore list, and I told him that as well (I only know what he said as he was quoted in your post)

Spider61 · 17-09-2012, 12:21

Taken Saturday 15 Sept
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More photos in the "Today in pictures" thread.

Neil · 17-09-2012, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Spider61

Taken Saturday 15 Sept
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More photos in the "Today in pictures" thread.

How did you get so close to then?

I am on a guided tour of the area next month.

cashman · 17-09-2012, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Neil

How did you get so close to then?

I am on a guided tour of the area next month.

Try walking wi a hard hat n luminous jacket Neil, twill get yeh anywhere.

Houseboy · 17-09-2012, 14:35

The whole problem here is not really the dirt or the entrance (definitely on Hassy Road by the way) but the windfarm itself. There is a lot of money to be made from windfarms. Money is paid to landowners and the developers/owners get money from the government similar to the feed-in tariff from solar power.
I have covered this subject quite a lot in an environment publication and the conclusion seems to be that there is doubt as to just how much benefit to the environment there actually is.Windfarms are really not that efficient, there is a long running debate about how much electricity they are capable of producing when you consider that they actually use a percentage of the power they produce in the first place. If you balance this against the downside, the blot on the landscape, the danger to flying wildlife and what is called "shadowflash", a phenomenon which is basically a constant flicker upon nearby buildings (under certain circumstances) that has led some people to suggest an affect on people with photo-sensitive epilepsy (unproved as yet).
I am not convinced of their value (as indeed is the case with many experts) and their presence on hilltops is undeniably a bad thing for the visual environment.
As for being able to stop them from being developed at any stage, this is incredibly difficult due to special planning laws with regard to them (some local authorities have been overruled by national government, which is committed to more of them, regardless of political persuasion). Very few communities have ever stopped them (I don't know of any but I am sure there have been one or two).
One thing is for certain, whatever the value to the environment and the money made by the developers, nobody will see a reduction in electricity bills because of them.

Neil · 17-09-2012, 18:39

I don't understand why there is a debate on how much electricity they produce because those that have them will know exactly.

Spider61 · 17-09-2012, 19:24

Neil,
It’s quite simple - I just walked to them.
The footpath that across the moor is not closed and crosses the access road.

shillelagh · 17-09-2012, 22:05

from the back lane at bash ...

entwisi · 18-09-2012, 08:11

You can actually see them from just after the m65/m61 junction near Preston as you drive towards accy. They are straight in front of you as you come along the motorway.

Personally, and this may be a little weird but I like them, they are kind of hypnotic...

cashman · 18-09-2012, 08:32

yeh must be weird, agreeing wi me, i quite like em as well.

Wynonie Harris · 18-09-2012, 08:49

I think they're aesthetically pleasing. Quite often gaze at the ones up behind the Coppice when I'm standing on the Clayton End waiting for the match to start. I like the look of electricity pylons, too.

Houseboy · 18-09-2012, 09:15

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Originally Posted by Neil

I don't understand why there is a debate on how much electricity they produce because those that have them will know exactly.

Absolutely, but the problem here is that because they are so lucrative the developers have been criticised for making claims that many experts doubt.

Houseboy · 18-09-2012, 09:21

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

I think they're aesthetically pleasing. Quite often gaze at the ones up behind the Coppice when I'm standing on the Clayton End waiting for the match to start. I like the look of electricity pylons, too.

Mmmm!! Still what is aesthetically pleasing to one may not be to another. I personally think they are dreadful but that may be more about the movement than anything. They'd drive me nuts if I could see them out of my window.
Pylons though??? When I was a kid we used to live in a house with fields behind and just outside our fence was a pylon. To see the sparks and hear the hissing when it rained scared me to death.
Scarred for life, ha ha!.

churchfcrules · 18-09-2012, 09:44

man as always used and traded on natural resource, and moulded his enviroment to his own will, wind and rain are certainly a natural resource of lancashire, i agree they can be an eyesore in some places but i believe they can also be aesthetically pleasing too, yet to make my mind up about the mossy ones, i can sit on the decking in the back garden and see them, at the moment it something different to look at.

they are certainly more pleasing to the eye than, a slag heap, "dirty gre't chimmley" bellowing out whatever.

MargaretR · 18-09-2012, 09:47

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Originally Posted by Houseboy

Mmmm!! Still what is aesthetically pleasing to one may not be to another. I personally think they are dreadful but that may be more about the movement than anything. They'd drive me nuts if I could see them out of my window.
Pylons though??? When I was a kid we used to live in a house with fields behind and just outside our fence was a pylon. To see the sparks and hear the hissing when it rained scared me to death.
Scarred for life, ha ha!.

The health hazards of living near power lines is now recognized
http://www.abermulewales.co.uk/powerwatch.pdf