Oswaldtwistle Wind Farm

[maxthecollie]

Just had a visit from an aerial engineer, fitted Freesat for me.I refused to have my aerial directed to Haslingden and lose channels

[Stumped]

Originally Posted by MargaretR

Get rid - they give off more EMF than mobile phones.

Cheers, Margaret. Hardly use the bloody thing anyway, rely on my Blackberry.

[Gordon Booth]

Originally Posted by maxthecollie

Just had a visit from an aerial engineer, fitted Freesat for me.I refused to have my aerial directed to Haslingden and lose channels

Do you have to have a separate Freesat box if your TV is Freeview? If so what if you have more than one TV with different inputs-more than one box?
More important, did they supply the box and dish FOC?

[Retlaw]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Do you have to have a separate Freesat box if your TV is Freeview? If so what if you have more than one TV with different inputs-more than one box?
More important, did they supply the box and dish FOC?

FreeSat can be picked up on a Sky dish, a dish with a quad head will pick up 4 channels, 2 on FreeSat and 2 on Sky, mine is set up to recieve one channel Sky and two channels FreeSat via a recorder downstairs, and 1 channel FreeSat upstairs.
Whether the tele has has freeview built in does'nt matter. All round I prefer the signal quality on FreeSat, and it has far more channels than Winter Hill.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Retlaw

..... a dish with a quad head will pick up 4 channels.....

You can get more than 4 channels at once with a quad

[maxthecollie]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Do you have to have a separate Freesat box if your TV is Freeview? If so what if you have more than one TV with different inputs-more than one box?
More important, did they supply the box and dish FOC?

Yes I got the Freesat Satellite Dish and the set top box F.O.C. Just keep pestering them . I told them I was ringing Granada TV and the Telegraph and sent emails to Graham Jones

[Lucysgirl]

Originally Posted by maxthecollie

Yes I got the Freesat Satellite Dish and the set top box F.O.C. Just keep pestering them . I told them I was ringing Granada TV and the Telegraph and sent emails to Graham Jones

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I live in Baxenden and when we moved here in 1980 reception was a bit dodgy on one channel but improved with time. Thus I had perfect TV reception for BBC and ITV on the old analogue system. When digital freeview was first announced at the beginning of this century and started being introduced I bought a freeview TV with inbuilt box and an expensive new powerful TV aerial which gave excellent analogue reception on a multitude of channels and this was the case when the digital switch over came .... until this year when my blood pressure steadily rose to bubbling point.

It took two emails to get any reaction from Energiekontor UK Ltd and I suspect I only received a 'phone call within 5 minutes of my 2nd email being sent on 6th inst., 'cos I'd also sent a copy to Graham Jones, MP & Bash councillors. The aerial rigger came that afternoon and after I'd refused to accept his offer of fitting an aerial which would give "excellent" reception but scarcely any channels, he spent an age in the icy wind and snow fitting a freesat aerial at a cost of £160.00 - they to kindly donate £100.00 towards it
With scarcely a minute to spare after he left with a £60 cheque and the new aerial & box top giving decent pictures, son appeared and tuned in to watch the football on ITV4 only to see a black screen announcing "No Signal".

On command, the rigger reappeared yesterday - tested the TV, demonstrated that ITV4 signal was available that day and also apologised for leaving me an icy draught and a coaxial cable which wasn't firmly affixed in the larger than required hole in my wall (which was initially hidden from my view by a large plant being placed in front of it).

This pensioner is not a happy bunny.

[maxthecollie]

Originally Posted by Lucysgirl

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I live in Baxenden and when we moved here in 1980 reception was a bit dodgy on one channel but improved with time. Thus I had perfect TV reception for BBC and ITV on the old analogue system. When digital freeview was first announced at the beginning of this century and started being introduced I bought a freeview TV with inbuilt box and an expensive new powerful TV aerial which gave excellent analogue reception on a multitude of channels and this was the case when the digital switch over came .... until this year when my blood pressure steadily rose to bubbling point.

It took two emails to get any reaction from Energiekontor UK Ltd and I suspect I only received a 'phone call within 5 minutes of my 2nd email being sent on 6th inst., 'cos I'd also sent a copy to Graham Jones, MP & Bash councillors. The aerial rigger came that afternoon and after I'd refused to accept his offer of fitting an aerial which would give "excellent" reception but scarcely any channels, he spent an age in the icy wind and snow fitting a freesat aerial at a cost of £160.00 - they to kindly donate £100.00 towards it
With scarcely a minute to spare after he left with a £60 cheque and the new aerial & box top giving decent pictures, son appeared and tuned in to watch the football on ITV4 only to see a black screen announcing "No Signal".

On command, the rigger reappeared yesterday - tested the TV, demonstrated that ITV4 signal was available that day and also apologised for leaving me an icy draught and a coaxial cable which wasn't firmly affixed in the larger than required hole in my wall (which was initially hidden from my view by a large plant being placed in front of it).

This pensioner is not a happy bunny.

You should not have paid for it I didn't. I refused to accept any less than I had and said I would not pay for anything that was not my fault

[Gordon Booth]

Graham Jones MP: Digital TV: Tory Council negotiated a terrible deal with little protection for Baxenden residents

Saw this looking for fracking.
Looks like maxthecollie did well not having to pay at all,Lucygirl had to pay as agreed.
Must agree with GJ- the Tory Council made a very bad deal with EnergieKontor, seeing as they were giving them a licence to print money(taxpayers money!).
There should have been no financial limit on the requirement to see every household(however many) were given free Freesat support, whatever ariels/boxes were needed.

[Barrie Yates]

Perhaps the Council will refund the difference to affected residents out of the nest egg that they sit on which we are told is largely committed to cover possible threats.
This isn't a threat it is real, and the residents are being asked to make up for another screw-up by the Council
One question does arise though - did the Council Labour Members not have sight of the proposed contract before it was signed?

[maxthecollie]

I urge members to stick to their guns and not pay we need to stick together on this.Why should Hyndburn residents have to pay or lose channels they have just got with this wonderful digital age.Stand up to Energiekontor.

[Gordon Booth]

£10,000 maximum legal commitment, first estimate 400 homes affected- that's £25 per home. That might just pay for the engineer to knock on your door, say'Hello. Goodbye' and go.
Now 100 homes possibly- £10 per home!
What incompetent joker negotiated that and which incompetent councillors accepted it?

[maxthecollie]

I had two engineers visit me. The first one came from Wigan and said he had come to direct my aerial to Haslingden. I wont tell you my reply but he went away. I rang Nathan Wicks at Energiekontor and explained what had happened. This was followed by a visit from a local engineer equipped with a two channel recording Freesat Box to install it. He never asked for money.Did the job and bid me farewell.

[Guinness]

Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Graham Jones MP: Digital TV: Tory Council negotiated a terrible deal with little protection for Baxenden residents

Saw this looking for fracking.
Looks like maxthecollie did well not having to pay at all,Lucygirl had to pay as agreed.
Must agree with GJ- the Tory Council made a very bad deal with EnergieKontor, seeing as they were giving them a licence to print money(taxpayers money!).
There should have been no financial limit on the requirement to see every household(however many) were given free Freesat support, whatever ariels/boxes were needed.

So basically, Graham Jones has done diddly squat about the problem except post a blog about how crap Peter Britcliffe was at negotiating. There's a surprise Lost count of the number of times he posted the word conservative in a negative connotation.

I doubt very much that the boss of EnergieKontor and Britcliffe sat around a table in the Regency over gammon and chips, hammering out possible compensation. I guess the whole HBC legal team and associated civil servants that negotiated this have now been replaced by Miles Parkinson, cos he's so much better at 'due diligence'

Does this MP really think the voters are stupid?

Maybe Jones should have shown a bit of 'due diligence' when aligning himself with a party consisting of the likes Margaret Moran et al.

Jones should stick to asking moronic questions in Parliament about how many foxes there are in Hyndburn and leave dealing with real issues like this to real people like maxthecollie who, instead of apportioning blame, get off their backsides, fight for their rights and win!

[Neil]

This thread has raised an interesting question.

Why should some licence payers get more channels than others?

If you are on a repeater you get less channels than if you are on a main transmitter but everyone pays tge same.