Pakdasht justice?

[Acrylic-bob]

I wonder how much Ian Brady and Myra Hindley have cost the taxpayer?

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I wonder how much Ian Brady and Myra Hindley have cost the taxpayer?

I wonder how much this one will cost the taxpayer (from tonights LET):

Asylum seeker fined

SHOPLIFTER Lela Selimi sandwiched an appearance in court between offences of shoplifting.

Blackburn magistrates heard the Albanian asylum-seeker started the day stealing clothing worth £115 from a town centre shop before attending court.

And having been made subject to a community rehabilitation order, she left court and committed two more offences.

Selimi, 21, of Victoria Street, Darwen, admitted stealing from Bay Trader and Argos, and handling goods stolen from Next and River island. She was made subject to a community rehabilitation order for three years and ordered to do 100 hours community punishment. Passing sentence, the chairman of the bench said the court had been very lenient.

"Should you commit similar offences in future it is very likely you will go to prison," he warned.

Francis McEntee, prosecuting, said Selimi had appeared in court last June 16 when she was made subject to a community rehabilitation order for offences of shoplifting.

"What is now clear is that the offences you are dealing with today were committed either side of that court appearance," said Mr McEntee. "Having taken some property from River Island before she came to court, the second theft was committed within hours if not minutes of her leaving this building."

Sian Hall, defending, referred to a pre-sentence report which she said showed her client had numerous problems.

"The report provides a great deal of detail of her traumatic life so far," said Miss Hall. "I don't feel it is appropriate for me to read those out in court and she finds them very difficult to cope with."

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I wonder how much Ian Brady and Myra Hindley have cost the taxpayer?

Less than teenager Derek Bentley. Hanged and now widely thought to have been not guilty.

[Acrylic-bob]

>> Less than teenager Derek Bentley. Hanged and now widely thought to have been not guilty.<<

No system is perfect. But, unlike Syndney Silverman, I think that although it is regretable, it is acceptable that sometimes the innocent must suffer rather than let the guilty go free.

[garinda]

l'm sure Derek Bentley's sister didn't see her brothers 'mistaken' execution a small price to pay, so that the guilty don't walk free. No compensation was paid out either, so we saved even more money in the long term didn't we?

[Acrylic-bob]

I'm sure she didn't. But I wonder how poor Keith Bennet's mother felt, nearly fifty years on now and still no prospect of finding his body.

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by garinda

l'm sure Derek Bentley's sister didn't see her brothers 'mistaken' execution a small price to pay, so that the guilty don't walk free. No compensation was paid out either, so we saved even more money in the long term didn't we?

The only problem with this case is that Craig was not hung as well (on the basis of age). If only at the time we could have ignored this pece of sentimental drivel then the pair of 'em would now be long dead and forgotten.

[garinda]

And Winnie Bennett would be closer to having a grave for her child if they'd have been executed in the 60's, l think not. At least for whatever reasons Hindley was able to help find victims bodies, thus providing some closure for those families 20 odd years later.

A bit hard for her to do if she was dead, unless you know Doris Stokes.

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by garinda

And Winnie Bennett would be closer to having a grave for her child if they'd have been executed in the 60's, l think not. At least for whatever reasons Hindley was able to help find victims bodies, thus providing some closure for those families 20 odd years later.

I'm quite sure that just one hundredth of the money spent on keeping these two in accommodation, food medicine and toilet rolls over the last 40 years or so would have been sufficent to fund a proper search of Saddleworth Moor and recover the body of young Bennett.

[grannyclaret]

no wonder britain is called a nanny state ,,we could soon empty the over crowed prisons if we took a leaf out of their book ,,,

[Acrylic-bob]

Maybe Mrs Bennet would be no nearer finding the body of her child, but she would have the comfort of knowing that Justice had been done and would not have to wake everyday knowing that his murderers were safe and well in the care of Her Majesty's Prison Service.

[Doug]

[QUOTE=Acrylic-bobNo system is perfect. But, unlike Syndney Silverman, I think that although it is regretable, it is acceptable that sometimes the innocent must suffer rather than let the guilty go free.[/QUOTE]

Why the **** should it be acceptable that sometimes the innocent must suffer. Where’s the Justice in that. If proven beyond doubt fine give the ****ers an injection and have done with it. But it is never acceptable to take an innocent life. Is that not what your proposed punishment is for……Taking an innocent Life?

[garinda]

You'd all better hope l'm on the jury, if you're ever in Court for a murder you hadn't committed then l'd hate for you to be wrongly executed in the name of statistical justice.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

I'm quite sure that just one hundredth of the money spent on keeping these two in accommodation, food medicine and toilet rolls over the last 40 years or so would have been sufficent to fund a proper search of Saddleworth Moor and recover the body of young Bennett.

I agree with you Tea, and there’s no reason why they still shouldn’t be looking. Maybe some of the residents of the open prison system should be put to work in assisting finding the child.

[g78]

Im afraid I don't agree with the whole 'corporal punishment' act. I just don't see how morally we can condone taking a life of someone who has already taken a life. To me it is double standards.