Pakdasht justice? - Page 7

garinda · 22-03-2005, 09:07

l don't see it as wilful misreading to comment on something so controversial that was posted, if you don't wish to clarify that is your perogative.

Bazf · 22-03-2005, 13:36

http://news.tbo.com/news/MGB4FU4ML6E.html

Now heres someone who needs the Pakasht Justice.

garinda · 22-03-2005, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Bazf

http://news.tbo.com/news/MGB4FU4ML6E.html

Now heres someone who needs the Pakasht Justice.

Horrific crime.

Should we wait until the jury reaches a verdict before administering 'justice', as so far he's only been charged and not been found guilty yet?

Innocent until proven guilty?

N.B.To the person who sent me the karma and the anonymous message, thanks for your comments and support.

Gx

Bazf · 22-03-2005, 16:09

I think he could well be guilty as he has admitted to it.

garinda · 22-03-2005, 16:20

The evidence does look overwhelming but he still hasn't been found guilty.

People admit to terrible crimes all the time, usually the lonely/insane/attention seekers.

In the late 70's there were lots of people presenting themselves at police stations saying they were the 'Yorkshire Ripper', good job we didn't hang them before we found Sutcliffe!

garinda · 23-03-2005, 07:09

To the anonymous person who only felt able to comment on what was written here by deducting karma [ about time- l'm sick of playing Devils Advocate!] You have a valid point it's just sad that you could only share your comment with me only.
l just said the said person charged with these crimes hadn't been convicted yet, so thought it was premature to suggest he faces the same fate as the person in the original thread.
Never be afraid to speak out publicly- if you have the balls

P.S. lf you're trying to remain anonymous don't forget you were the only person on-line at that time and that time is noted along with your comment. Never kid a kidder.

park381 · 23-03-2005, 08:24

[QUOTE=garinda]To the anonymous person who only felt able to comment on what was written here by deducting karma [quote]
I am in total agreement. If someone feels that a particular post warrants the deduction of Karma, they should sign their name, when doing so.

WillowTheWhisp · 23-03-2005, 12:43

If he is found not guilty then presumably he will not receive any punishment. What's wrong with having a discussion about what punishment a person should receive if found guilty? Doesn't it automatically follow? When murderers were hanged back before it was abolished then those not guilty of murder were not hanged. Seems quite logical to me.

garinda · 23-03-2005, 15:00

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

If he is found not guilty then presumably he will not receive any punishment. What's wrong with having a discussion about what punishment a person should receive if found guilty? Doesn't it automatically follow? When murderers were hanged back before it was abolished then those not guilty of murder were not hanged. Seems quite logical to me.

Agreed Willow, but the thread started out saying here's someone who should get the same justice as the man in Iran who was publicly hanged. l just commented that this other man in Minnesota has only been charged yet and not found gulity of any crime, so it seems a bit premature to call for the same 'justice' as was meeted out in Iran to be called for here .
Like l said everyone should be innocent until proven guilty in my book.

Bazf · 23-03-2005, 15:06

Just incase you didn't read the artical in the Link.

INVERNESS FL - John Evander Couey was charged Monday with first-degree murder, sexual battery on a child under 12 and kidnapping in the disappearance and suffocation of 9- year-old Jessie Lunsford.

Jessie's dad, Mark, awaits the next step: ``I need everybody's support for pushing the death penalty for this man,'' said Lunsford, 41.

Prosecutors are expected to seek that after taking the case to a grand jury, probably in the next 21 days, said Assistant State Attorney Pete Magrino, a member of the team that will try to put Couey on death row.

Couey, a two-time child sex offender, was living 150 yards from the girl's home when she disappeared.

At the time, he had eluded conventional means for keeping track of registered sex offenders.

Couey, 46, is thought to have entered Jessie's home late Feb. 23 or early Feb. 24 through an unlocked back door.

Authorities say he went into her bedroom, woke her and took her with him, though they would not say how he managed to get the girl out of the house without signs of a struggle or waking her grandparents, who were sleeping in another room.

Couey then sexually assaulted Jessie, killed her and disposed of her body in the back yard of a trailer where he lived at the time, authorities said

garinda · 23-03-2005, 15:16

l think anybody who hadn't read the original link you posted and commented without reading it would most unwise. l did.

Like l originally said, the crime is heartbreakingly horrific, but stand by my statement that he hasn't been found guilty in a Court of Law yet., and calls for public hanging are premature.

WillowTheWhisp · 23-03-2005, 19:07

OK maybe it would have been better if the Dad had said "I need everybody's support for pushing the death penalty for this crime"

At one time I was very much against the death penalty with the argument that you can't bring back a life if it's proved that there has been a miscarriage of justice but maybe in some cases where there can be no doubt of a person's guilt?

grego · 23-03-2005, 20:38

I totally agree with the death penalty if proved guilty, I dont think us tax payers should be keeping these people in jail, surely if death was the outcome some of these monsters would think twice.

Gobsmacked · 24-03-2005, 00:24

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Originally Posted by garinda

l think anybody who hadn't read the original link you posted and commented without reading it would most unwise. l did.

What makes you think only you read the link?

garinda · 24-03-2005, 00:51

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Originally Posted by Gobsmacked

What makes you think only you read the link?

I just thought that when the link we were discussing had already been posted it seemed rather strange to print it out just to clarify the horror of the crime.

AGAIN I state, it is horrific crime but he hasn't been found guilty yet, and in answer to Willow's statement that aren't some people guilty before a fair trial, the answer is in the eyes of the law -no.