Panopticons - Page 3

Margaret Pilkington · 15-03-2005, 16:28

I have often spent time up on the Coppice......I used to run there regularly, and although I may not mention it on here......unless there is cause to......the views are stunning. I do not feel that the Panopticons have anything that will improve the natural beauty of the area......and if we are going to have them just so that we can have a share of some funding...... is that not a bit hypocritical......a bit like prostituting ourselves for a bit of cash. I also think that the earthworks will attract mountain bikers, motor scramblers etc. I think it will go ahead regardless of what we think.

chav1 · 15-03-2005, 16:28

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Originally Posted by luke orourke 1988

its confusin me a bit. i mean how some bumps on the coppice be art.

it cant

but a few bumps on the coppice can become an eyesore pretty fast

the shelters and stone monument up there are alreadsy covered in graffiti so what do they think will happen to the bumps or any other crap put up there

i remember when the cross was put up their at easter it was burnt to ashes every year

Doug · 15-03-2005, 16:32

I've had a great day out today. I did look up at the coppice and smiled to myself as I remembered what a fantastic place it was before they stuck trees all over it. You need to get a grip here folks, this will not bring people in to Accrington, and it’s a waist of money and will end up just another wart on the landscape covered in spray paint. If your going to do anything clean up the town and then preserve what’s left of the areas heritage and give people something to come and see that’s worth the effort. They may even stay around and spend some money if the towns decent for them. What the **** do you think their going to do.

“Get the kids in the Datsun love”, we’re off to see Accy’s Panopticons and then we can have a curry on that ****ty old road. Afterward we can go on to Burnley and spend some money…..Dream on.

chav1 · 15-03-2005, 16:32

the panopticon's biggest threat is not public opinion but what people like me can do with an axe

that was a joke and i am not affiliated with an terrorist groups or fundimentalist organisations

hey you never know whos reading this stuff lol

garinda · 15-03-2005, 17:01

Plus, the Hyndburn sculpture is built so that it will last over 500+ years - not exactly a flash in the pan is it? QUOTE PurpleLass

Hope it doesn't come with the same guarantee as the paving stones outside the Market Hall?

Less · 15-03-2005, 17:07

If instead of trying to make some sense out of what is an absolute piece of garbage then I would agree that this Panopticon is worth having, but instead of something pleasing to the eye of the beholder we are being offered a cheap hurried half-baked idea, Ignore the Coppice let's get Broadway to be something we can be proud of once more, for us, NOT TOURISTS. Once we, the people can feel proud of this area then we can invite others to visit & we will proudly show them what we have, just covering the cracks with a distastful & cheap wallpaper will only show that really, we just don't care.

Call me old fashioned but I think this would be nice.

Doug · 15-03-2005, 17:10

Is anybody listening to this man, you should.

vorlon24 · 15-03-2005, 17:15

It looks nice, but it looks like the famous Accrington Elephant has left a message by one of the lampposts!!!

Less · 15-03-2005, 17:18

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Originally Posted by vorlon24

It looks nice, but it looks like the famous Accrington Elephant has left a message by one of the lampposts!!!

No Vorlon, that was the place where the first lot of rot started unfortunately none of us noticed!

garinda · 15-03-2005, 17:22

An Easter Island style statue would be more permenant.

A granite erection of Peter looking down on all his Kingdom, now that would be good for putting us on the tourist trail.

stanaccrington · 15-03-2005, 17:23

Yes, of course a shopping centre with a nice Next would be lovely. But what would it really achieve? A few extra hundred people heading into the area per week? Possibly not even that, from what I've heard.
The Panopticons however seem to offer the potential for something else. A way for the area to be put on a tourist map. Anyone heard of the Great Days Out? Gets people on coaches into Accy, stopping at Ossy Mills etc. My gran has been on several of these trips and loved em. Said she wouldn't have bothered with Accy otherwise. Imagine now if Accy were on a route for a Panopticon tour? Same thing.
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Yep Ossy mills another 1/2 price market type store that attracts numorous people to the area, why cos its cheap,age group over 60s why cos its cheap,who else goes on coach trips during the week? So how the hell you going to get a load of oaps up the coppice?

What the town needs is investment in industry, in jobs, in revitalisation of the town center which will bring in better shops, better shopping enviroment you need a whole new road structure because some some ill imformed planners decided to route traffic away from town,to bring people to Accrington you have to start with the people who live there make it a place people want to live in not a chav center of excellence where they know the system will surpport them. So you have to knock a few buildings down that have been there a while, you have to clean up springhill and make the people respect where thay live. When you achive that then start looking at stupid lumps on the coppice, too many people who make decsions for Hyndburn don't live there so it doesnt impact them, it like the "they just got 100,000 from the goverment so we want some" attitude who cares how much it costs or where the money comes from just say no thanks we want our town back. When a counciller actually stands up and says look this town has gone down so far we dont need any more hairbrained schemes or pound shops we need a radical overhaul and we need to go out and find investment to make this once proud town prosperous again.

vorlon24 · 15-03-2005, 17:25

Anyone else want to see granite erections?

They put a War Memorial obelisk in Tonbridge, by the Castle, and no-one takes much notice of that.

You see more people sitting on benches near green areas more than crowded around the obelisk (apart from those waiting for their bus, of course).

Less's idea is much better

dillon · 15-03-2005, 17:28

Well I hate to say it, but you need to get to the next public meeting on the issue. If you've read the LET today or looked at the site you'll know that thanks to a REALLY bad recepetion at a public meeting the Ribble Valley panopticon has been moved!!!! The locals basically went to a meeting and said, no way in hell you're putting a statue on our lovely land!
That's the power of public opinion. As the old saying goes, if you want something done, do it yourself!!

stanaccrington · 15-03-2005, 17:29

We will just wait for them to change the date, you know a good football match or ............................

Doug · 15-03-2005, 17:32

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Originally Posted by garinda

An Easter Island style statue would be more permenant.

A granite erection of Peter looking down on all his Kingdom, now that would be good for putting us on the tourist trail.

Good idea garinda. They can make it into a fountaine then Peter can **** on us some more.