Panorama - Page 2

jaysay · 28-03-2008, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Having just watched this programme have got to agree with what has been said. Would just like to add it would be reassuring to be told that the relevant departments acted on parents concerns promptly. Found the fact that it took social services three months to be actively seen to be sorting things very disturbing to say the least.

Case load presure Bernadette, well thats what they usually say isn't it

BERNADETTE · 28-03-2008, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay

Case load presure Bernadette, well thats what they usually say isn't it

Case load pressure be buggered anything could have happened in the time it took them to act.

grannyclaret · 28-03-2008, 12:59

I noticed they never lure Asian girls for sex,, why English, is it coz they are just slappers or is it because Asian girls would be hung drawn and quartered by their families

BERNADETTE · 28-03-2008, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by grannyclaret

I noticed they never lure Asian girls for sex,, why English, is it coz they are just slappers or is it because Asian girls would be hung drawn and quartered by their families

Would imagine it would be them being hung drawn and quartered if they groomed asian girls.

grannyclaret · 28-03-2008, 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Would imagine it would be them being hung drawn and quartered if they groomed asian girls.

erm what a good idea,, hang em high

lancsdave · 28-03-2008, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by grannyclaret

I noticed they never lure Asian girls for sex,, why English, is it coz they are just slappers or is it because Asian girls would be hung drawn and quartered by their families

I would guess the culture still has females as second class citizens kept in their place. Notice how the lad in the car said if it was his sister he would 'kick **** out f her and send her home", of course because they are English girls they don't bother with the kicking or sending them home.

jambutty · 28-03-2008, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

The Maltese were the specialists at pimping 20 or 30 yrs ago - looks like they are still at it now, according to this link
Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery - Malta

That’s a bit unfair. Tarring all the people of Malta with the same brush. In fact it is a lot unfair.

Although my personal experience of the Maltese people is 50 years old, I found them to be no different to any other people of the world. They, just like the UK, have a criminal element but the greater majority are friendly, hospitable, showed great resolution and bravery and suffered greatly during WWII to support the UK.

Indeed Malta isn’t just Malta but Malta GC. The people of the islands were collectively awarded the George Cross.

In fact if it wasn’t for the Maltese people the British Africa campaigns during WWII would not have happened and the world would have been a different place today.

MargaretR · 28-03-2008, 15:03

In London at the time of the Krays, the maltese were known to dominate the Soho sex industry.
Malta Today

In the 70s I interviewed unmarried mothers (as part of my Dhss job).
Several admitted prostitution, when in London, under the control of a Maltese pimps.

The link indicates that control has now passed to Albanians in London.

My mentioning this is not intended to reflect adversly on the whole population of Malta, but to demonstrate that the practice of pimping appears to be more prevalent amongst those in our population who have immigrated here.

Tealeaf · 28-03-2008, 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

In London at the time of the Krays, the maltese were known to dominate the Soho sex industry.
Malta Today

In the 70s I interviewed unmarried mothers (as part of my Dhss job).
Several admitted prostitution, when in London, under the control of a Maltese pimps.

The link indicates that control has now passed to Albanians in London.

Gay prostitution in the metropolis is now under the control of Ossy pimps.

garinda · 28-03-2008, 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Gay prostitution in the metropolis is now under the control of Ossy pimps.

You must be thrilled at the linking of your two obsessions, Oswaldtwistle, and all things gay related.

jaysay · 28-03-2008, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE

Case load pressure be buggered anything could have happened in the time it took them to act.

Bernie I totally agree with you I wasn't making excuses or social workers, but thats the reason they always give when things go wrong. There can be no excuse for not acting on these cases, that woman who said she had told SS about he daughters plight nearly every day for three months, was something that should never happen, but it does and until the powers that be get a grip this problem won't go away, it will only get worse

katex · 28-03-2008, 18:47

It does appear to be a very difficult issue though, doesn't it ?

These 'pimps' put the fear of God into these girls threatening them, and their family, with physical violence (and using it) when they did not comply. Even nailed a girl's tongue down to stop her talking !!

Very difficult for social workers and police officers to get a conviction, but so easy for these b*stards to draw vulnerable teenagers into it. Thought the P.C. there was absolutely wonderful .. working against all these odds as well as shortages in staff.

What got me was that one girl was not gaining financially at all !! So why is she doing it ? .. her drug supply that she has been persuaded to take or fear of breaking away ?

The Asian who stated that he would send his daughter 'back home' was a total hypocrite .. didn't stop him waiting for one of these girls to become available though, did it

Unfortunately, until we put more bromide in males' tea (or currys) then there will always be a market.

garinda · 28-03-2008, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by katex

What got me was that one girl was not gaining financially at all !! So why is she doing it ? .. her drug supply that she has been persuaded to take or fear of breaking away ?

That bugged me too. They kept referring to the girls as prostitutes.

These were abused children, who were sold to the sick barstewards who used them.

BERNADETTE · 28-03-2008, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay

Bernie I totally agree with you I wasn't making excuses or social workers, but thats the reason they always give when things go wrong. There can be no excuse for not acting on these cases, that woman who said she had told SS about he daughters plight nearly every day for three months, was something that should never happen, but it does and until the powers that be get a grip this problem won't go away, it will only get worse

Jaysay, I know you were agreeing but as you say if somebody is phoning every day for three months you would think they would cotton on to the fact that it was serious.

flashy · 28-03-2008, 19:11

i watched this last night too, and i dont think it did enough to highlight the problem, did they say what they where going to do about it? did they hell, that bloke in the car who said something along the lines of 'i blame the parents' needs shooting, i wonder if he was of the asian persuasion(sp?)