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Old 23-11-2015, 07:35   #271
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Jason, I am not looking for sophistication. If you knew me you would realise that I am about as sophisticated as Worzel Gummidge.
I am just looking for a balanced, informed response.
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Old 23-11-2015, 15:30   #272
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I don't think sophistication is the issue ... one doesn't have to know anything about Maurice Gamelin, or the specifics of the military re-occupation of the Rhineland by the Wehrmacht to know that you don't need a sledgehammer to kill a flea. It's common sense. The greatest barriers I face when trying to come to terms with what to do about ISIS are my prejudices ... c'mon, we all have 'em ... I don't like Islam ... I don't trust Germany; and I think they got off too lightly for what they did last century ... I don't like the French (I think this must be genetic, bred in the bone 'cause I'm English) But I know that they are prejudices, and therefore not quite rational; so, the only sophistication I use is trying to get beyond them when I try to come to grips with complex problems. I also don't like tories, the EPL, JWs, born-again christians, reality shows .... the list is probably endless.
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Old 23-11-2015, 15:31   #273
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Oh, and I don't like vegans either
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Old 23-11-2015, 15:51   #274
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Eric, you are right about us all having some degree of prejudice.
Often, as you say we have no real rational basis for this....but while we can admit to these we tolerate the things that we don't much like.
Tolerance is something which allows us to rub along together......although I do think that as we get older our tolerance levels get tested.....or certainly that has been my own experience.
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Old 23-11-2015, 16:11   #275
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Tolerance ... that's what it is ... I'll try to keep that in mind the next time someone or something rattles my cage

Here's our plan for the coming influx of refugees in the wake of Paris. It might not be a perfect solution; but at least someone in authority has give the problem some thought.

Canada's Syrian refugee plan limited to women, children and families - Politics - CBC News
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Old 23-11-2015, 16:53   #276
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Oh, and I don't like vegans either
Got to agree, though if there was a shortage of turkey/beef or pork I'd eat one for Christmas dinner.
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Old 23-11-2015, 16:59   #277
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Less, you would struggle to eat a full one
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Old 23-11-2015, 17:17   #278
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Less, you would struggle to eat a full one
Always have plenty of family around plus, sandwiches from the left overs and something similar to pea & ham soup made from the bones, to keep the cold out as we go a wandering along some nature trail on boxing day, thanking our meal for keeping the wildlife safe for us to observe.
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Old 23-11-2015, 18:24   #279
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Thinking of the Canadian plan, there is a definite prejudice there, a prejudice against single young male refugees. I suppose this shows that some biases ain't all that illogical or out to lunch. But it is a clever move on the part of our government. It will probably silence quite a bit of the more vocal opposition. It's not so easy to be opposed to a women and children first policy.

One interesting point I noticed when reading the article is that as soon as they arrive the refugees will be covered by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. In other words, apart from not being able to vote and being liable to deportation if they commit a crime or mess up in some similar fashion, they will be treated as Canadians. They will have the right to move anywhere they wish in Canada, the right to benefits, the right to work ... all kinds of good stuff.

Even tho' I didn't vote Liberal, and probably never will, I think Trudeau (the hottest PM on the planet) got this one right.
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Old 23-11-2015, 19:48   #280
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Can we exchange him for Cameron Eric?
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Old 23-11-2015, 20:14   #281
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Got to agree, though if there was a shortage of turkey/beef or pork I'd eat one for Christmas dinner.
I hear that tories are not bad eating too. And you can usually get a deal on one 'cause they are such a bitch to clean.
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Old 23-11-2015, 20:55   #282
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I hear that tories are not bad eating too. And you can usually get a deal on one 'cause they are such a bitch to clean.
Good grief NOOOOOO!

I'd be up all night with heartburn, there is nothing about the Tories that I would find easy to swallow.

Give me a corn fed Liberal any day.
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Old 23-11-2015, 21:41   #283
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In a town near you any time soon. Look out sleepyville!
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Old 23-11-2015, 22:34   #284
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I hear that tories are not bad eating too.
due to cross contamination with pork issues Tory meat has been removed from most British menus

as Tory meat was when thatcher was alive due to the mad cow disease fears
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Less, you would struggle to eat a full one
A little one wouldn't be much different than a suckling pig.
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