Parking at side of Market Hall - Page 4

Wynonie Harris · 03-02-2010, 15:08

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

The infrastructure seems to be there with a well laid out shopping centre, good parking facilities, a market and plenty of places to eat and drink. Just seems a shame that there isn't more there to draw people in.

Sums it up perfectly, really. Accy has everything in place to make it a thriving little centre, including the Victorian market and town halls which many other towns unwisely demolished in the modernising mania of the 60's. Add to that the superb, but neglected arcade and the quaint charm of the Warner Street area and you have a town centre with quite a lot of potential. Sadly, that potential has been squandered, thanks to the sheer stupidity of the council.

Neil · 03-02-2010, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Sadly, that potential has been squandered, thanks to the sheer stupidity of the council.

So how do you convince someone like me to go into Accy and not go to Asda/Tesco and the retail parks when I go shopping?

Barrie Yates · 03-02-2010, 17:10

Variety of shops, none, or very few closed, some entertainment activity particularly for the children, a good clean well regulated market - indoor and outdoor, some decent cafes, indoors and out - the outside ones where people can smoke. I really is not quantum physics or brain surgery>

Wynonie Harris · 03-02-2010, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Neil

So how do you convince someone like me to go into Accy and not go to Asda/Tesco and the retail parks when I go shopping?

You're never going to stop people going to the retail parks and the supermarkets - that's a fact of life. But you could make the town centre a more attractive place for other types of shopping by offering tax breaks on empty properties. Perhaps more specialist and unusual businesses could be encouraged to move into the Arcade/Warner Street area, making it more attractive for browsers. I know these ideas have been floated before, but no one ever seems to do anything about it!

Mick · 03-02-2010, 17:26

You can park anywhere you want ............sorry its a poor photo was on a moving bus at the time of taking this

katex · 03-02-2010, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Neil

So how do you convince someone like me to go into Accy and not go to Asda/Tesco and the retail parks when I go shopping?

Could offer you a free pint in the Railway if proved you had purchased something ...

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Perhaps more specialist and unusual businesses could be encouraged to move into the Arcade/Warner Street area, making it more attractive for browsers. I know these ideas have been floated before, but no one ever seems to do anything about it!

Don't want browsers Wynonie .. need buyers.

Never going to happen, but groups of shops selling the same type of goods always attracts .. for example, a textile/fashion/hand crafted furniture/jewellery Victorian Arcade so that people seeking these type of goods would have lots of shops offering all one type of goods within a short distance ... Ok.. pipe dream.

Neil · 03-02-2010, 17:42

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Originally Posted by mick

You can park anywhere you want ............sorry its a poor photo was on a moving bus at the time of taking this

Did you put that into the competition?

Neil · 03-02-2010, 17:45

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Originally Posted by katex

I could offer you a free pint in the Railway if proved you had purchased something ...

I will remind you of that

Mick · 03-02-2010, 17:45

nope i already have my limit on the comp

katex · 03-02-2010, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Neil

I will remind you of that

LOL .. meant HBC could of course ... darn it !

shillelagh · 03-02-2010, 17:52

can see it now .. katex thinking i'll go and see how the researchers are going on .. she walks in .. mick digs deep into his carrier bag and pulls out 1/4 roast ham .. see i bought something .. wheres my pint? .. less digs deep into his pocket .. pulls out a packet of fag papers ... see i bought something wheres my pint .... etc ... gets their pints ... drinks em .. mick .. see i bought 5lb of spuds .. wheres my pint .. less digs deep into his pocket .. see i bought some baccy ... wheres my pint ... you get the picture ...

katex · 03-02-2010, 17:55

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

can see it now .. katex thinking i'll go and see how the researchers are going on .. she walks in .. mick digs deep into his carrier bag and pulls out 1/4 roast ham .. see i bought something .. wheres my pint? .. less digs deep into his pocket .. pulls out a packet of fag papers ... see i bought something wheres my pint .... etc ... gets their pints ... drinks em .. mick .. see i bought 5lb of spuds .. wheres my pint .. less digs deep into his pocket .. see i bought some baccy ... wheres my pint ... you get the picture ...

.. OK .. got that Shill .. just throwing in ideas like. Better throw it out though.

Ken Moss · 03-02-2010, 18:57

Has anyone actually put this to any of the councillors in Accrington for discussion?

lancsdave · 03-02-2010, 19:06

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Originally Posted by katex

for example, a textile/fashion/hand crafted furniture/jewellery Victorian Arcade

The arcade we have, which was once a great place to see different things has now been dragged so far down it's lower than the gutter

A taxi office at the end, 2 shops converted in to what can best be described as a scrapyard for washing machines. No wonder the fancy dress shop closed down, and the little antique shop in the corner is closing. The cafe in there must be pulling their hair out, it's like a rose surrounded by thorns. Still I'm sure they can find a couple of bookies to move in

MargaretR · 03-02-2010, 19:35

Business rates on empty properties is charged at 100% after 6 months.

I remember when that came into force and we witnessed many fires in empty commercial premises - so much so that the fire increase was markedly notable. (Premises without roofs are not taxable)

The owners of the Arndale centre are at the mercy of the council who set the level of business rates.There will come a time when the rents they receive from actively let properties is cancelled out by the business rates paid out on the empty units.

When that happens the Arndale will be making a loss - will close - and will need to be demolished by the owners in order to cut their losses.