Parliament needs to reflect the people it represents.

Margaret Pilkington · 07-04-2015, 10:54

'Parliament needs to reflect the people it represents'

Now, where do you think that quote came from?
If you are struggling, I will tell you(maybe you have not yet had the missive from our representative at the P.O.W.)....it came from the election leaflet sent out by Graham Jones MP.

Wouldn't it be good if our representative reflected the wishes of the constituents......those folk who put their X in his box the last time round.
Those folk (or 95% of them) who do not know enough about the EU(or anything to do with politics it seems)......so that he thought he could make the decisions for us.

Having read this leaflet I thought it was just a bit ironic.

Well, this time around he can whistle for my vote!

cashman · 07-04-2015, 12:32

Have to say it does need too, But fails miserably.

Margaret Pilkington · 07-04-2015, 12:41

But coming from the person saying it....Don't you think it is a bit rich?

accyman · 07-04-2015, 13:12

Yes yes but mr jones helped screw us out of a referendum merely weeks after been elected so a long time has passed now so we have to stop looking back and stop been negative

if it wasnt for graham jones that manhole cover that has sat outside my mothers house the past 30 years may not be here today..

cant wait until afte rteh election i need to speak to him about abduction of traffic cones

Barrie Yates · 07-04-2015, 13:24

There can be no doubt that he considers his career before the wishes of his constituents and his conscience.

yerself · 07-04-2015, 17:26

Perhaps he thinks he's a born again second world war Prime Minister.

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
Winston Churchill

Margaret Pilkington · 07-04-2015, 17:38

He should be so lucky.
I think that things have moved on a bit since Churchill spoke to voters.

It does not do to let those who you want to vote for you, believe that you think they fell out of the stupid tree(and hit every branch on the way down).
If (as a politician) you do think that, then you keep it to yourself........why would you alienate those whose vote will keep you in a very fine lifestyle?

A lot of the political disenchantment does not hinge on the fact that people do not understand politics(in the broadest sense), but that those who are in politics, see themselves above the voters.
Well, that and the fact that voting seems to change very little as the parties all seem much of a muchness.

Margaret Pilkington · 08-04-2015, 10:20

Having seen Tony Blair boosting the election campaign for the Labour Party, I now know where GJ got his ideas from?
It seems that TB thinks none of us are capable of deciding what is good for the country.
Is this democracy then?
Just an illusion of democracy.
And why would anyone trust TB ever again.....he is the very worst type of Champagne socialist....only in it for what he can get out of it.

cashman · 08-04-2015, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Having seen Tony Blair boosting the election campaign for the Labour Party, I now know where GJ got his ideas from?
It seems that TB thinks none of us are capable of deciding what is good for the country.
Is this democracy then?
Just an illusion of democracy.
And why would anyone trust TB ever again.....he is the very worst type of Champagne socialist....only in it for what he can get out of it.

It seems to me the way Blair acts, is he simply lining his wifes pocket? Keep it in the family.

Barrie Yates · 08-04-2015, 10:50

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Having seen Tony Blair boosting the election campaign for the Labour Party, I now know where GJ got his ideas from?
It seems that TB thinks none of us are capable of deciding what is good for the country.
Is this democracy then?
Just an illusion of democracy.
And why would anyone trust TB ever again.....he is the very worst type of Champagne socialist....only in it for what he can get out of it.

TB - he lied to the people and to parliament over the WMD in Iraq and thereby led us into an illegal war. He became the Middle East Peace Envoy and now the ME is in far more turmoil than before he stepped into the post. If GJ agrees with him then that is one more reason why I won't be voting for him.

cashman · 08-04-2015, 12:02

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

TB - he lied to the people and to parliament over the WMD in Iraq and thereby led us into an illegal war. He became the Middle East Peace Envoy and now the ME is in far more turmoil than before he stepped into the post. If GJ agrees with him then that is one more reason why I won't be voting for him.

Perhaps cos 95% of us are too thick to remember?

Barrie Yates · 08-04-2015, 13:14

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Originally Posted by cashman

Perhaps cos 95% of us are too thick to remember?

Or perhaps because 95% of us just weren't smart enough to work in a high tech factory?

Eric · 08-04-2015, 17:39

Maybe Parliament already reflects the people it represents.

Margaret Pilkington · 08-04-2015, 17:57

How can this be so Eric...the politicians do not listen to the electorate.

Those things which have worried the electorate for a long time have not been addressed by any of the parties.(porous borders,the EU, foreign aid, the economy,the crisis in the NHS, the corrupt banking system, tax avoidance etc)
Have any of the representatives been knocking on my door.....No, they have not. We are expected to be placated by stage managed TV debates, which make the leader of the parties seem like celebrities, or X factor contestants.
I do not give a flying fig for the personality of those in the debate. It isn't a personality contest....what I really want to know is, has the person asking me to vote for their party got the cojones to take decisive action where action is needed?
Can they be relied upon to listen to the wishes of those who put them in to power?
Will they tackle the thorny issue of child abuse that seems to be at the heart of Westminster(even if it is historic _ there needs to be transparency).
Can I trust what I am being told...or are they all going to be like TB and take the patrician view that they know what is best?(and they will do that regardless of what the electorate think)

accyman · 08-04-2015, 19:43

the only time polititions mention the NHS is at election time

the rest of the time they whisper about it as they sell it off bit by bit especially labour who proclaim to be the saviour of the NHS

i knew someone who sold to the NHS and the NHS paid a lot more for the item they purchased than what they would if they bought the very same item from the same supplier on ebay

a lot of people get very rich selling to the NHS in ways they should not