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19-09-2011, 18:50
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by jaysay
To be honest the more I read about this the more like a dogs breakfast it becomes, its a flaming joke, conceived by people sitting in an office in London without a clue about the areas and people they are messing about, people want encouraging to take an interest in politics, it want help if they don't know whether they're on their arse or their elbow
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I agree.
We should all be up in arms.
We need a M.P. who basically covers the same political area as the local council borough we live in.
If we don't, we'll have less clout, and will lose out.
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19-09-2011, 19:14
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by garinda
I agree.
We should all be up in arms.
We need a M.P. who basically covers the same political area as the local council borough we live in.
If we don't, we'll have less clout, and will lose out.
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Its always worked before so why change it, it was bad enough when two wards from Haslingden were tacked on to Hyndburn, especially for those living in Hassy, to me there's no rhyme nor reason for it, its just keeping some divvies in London in a well paid job
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19-09-2011, 19:23
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
I know some people think that they don't always do much good, but just checked and saw there wasn't a Facebook campaign for Hyndburn to remain a political constituency, so have just started one.
If you feel we should have a M.P. whose area more or less covers that of out borough council, and that our political power will diminish if we disappear, split between Burnley and Darwen/Haslingden, please support this campaign by 'liking' it.
It's certainly something the press will quote, if enough of us are against it.
This is nothing at all to do with political allegiance.
It's about our area not being seen as important, and the lack of power the proposed change would bring.
If you want to be represented by a M.P. for Hyndburn, please support the campaign that we remain a constituency down in Westminster.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/250832224959203/
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19-09-2011, 21:22
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
have just signed up, this should never be allowed to happen.
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19-09-2011, 21:45
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by jaysay
Its always worked before so why change it, it was bad enough when two wards from Haslingden were tacked on to Hyndburn, especially for those living in Hassy, to me there's no rhyme nor reason for it, its just keeping some divvies in London in a well paid job
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yes i know ... i campaigned then against it ... even went to preston and spoke up against it ... but they didnt listen ... so whats changed ... cos when they changed the boundaries last time it was 16 years ago ...
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19-09-2011, 22:17
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by cashman
have just signed up, this should never be allowed to happen.
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So far there are well over forty people who have joined the Keep Hyndburn as a Constituency group, including people from across the political divide, as well as concerned members of the public.
If Peter Britcliffe and Graham Jones are in agreement on it's importance to us as an area, you can tell how serious an issue this is.
This area will be sidelined if this proposal goes through.
As Gayle Knight posted on the Facebook page, if our constituency disappears, there's nothing to stop our borough council being similarly split up, and tagged on to neighbouring councils.
Our area will lose it's identity, and political power and leverage if this is allowed to happen.
Now, and historically we are an important part of this country, with much to offer, but also specific needs.
We need our own M.P.
If you don't want to join the Facebook group, you can still have your view offically heard by emailing the Boundary Commission.
It literally takes two minutes.
Just click 'Have Your Say' on this link...
http://consultation.boundarycommissi...endent.gov.uk/
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Last edited by garinda; 19-09-2011 at 22:19.
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20-09-2011, 09:03
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
I have signed up, it might be nice if all political sides in Hyndburn Labour Tory and independent showed a united front for once on this issue, because it will affect all sides if these clowns are allowed to ride rough shod over our wishes, so come for once stop the infighting and stand as one against this stupidity
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20-09-2011, 09:10
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by jaysay
I have signed up, it might be nice if all political sides in Hyndburn Labour Tory and independent showed a united front for once on this issue, because it will affect all sides if these clowns are allowed to ride rough shod over our wishes, so come for once stop the infighting and stand as one against this stupidity
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Thanks Jaysay.
People across the political spectrum have joined the campaign group.
For once there's unity on this issue.
With everyone knowing we'll suffer as an area without our own M.P.
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20-09-2011, 09:13
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
agree jaysay, theres only 1 side in this,simple as.
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20-09-2011, 09:17
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by garinda
Thanks Jaysay.
People across the political spectrum have joined the campaign group.
For once there's unity on this issue.
With everyone knowing we'll suffer as an area without our own M.P.
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Ya its important that the general public see all political factions pulling together, then they will realise just how serious this is for the future of this area. I think Gayle has a hell of a point with regards of Hyndburn Council being in danger of being chopped up and tacked onto other boroughs, if we don't make a stand now god knows where it will all end
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20-09-2011, 09:19
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
I think it could also be a good idea if people like Graham and Peter and other councillors be seen to be together on this, I'm sure the Obs would be only too please to have a front page spread one Friday With a group photo to back up the story
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20-09-2011, 09:29
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by jaysay
I think it could also be a good idea if people like Graham and Peter and other councillors be seen to be together on this, I'm sure the Obs would be only too please to have a front page spread one Friday With a group photo to back up the story
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Peter Britcliffe and Graham Jones being united and supporting this campaign, along with councillors/supporters across the political divide, shows just how serious issue this is for all of us.
People once thought the old Urban District Councils they paid their rates to would never disappear...until 1974, when they did.
This area deserves it's own M.P. at Westminster.
If we lose them we will undoubtedly suffer as a consequence, by being split up, and tagged on to neighbouring areas.
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20-09-2011, 09:44
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by jaysay
I think it could also be a good idea if people like Graham and Peter and other councillors be seen to be together on this, I'm sure the Obs would be only too please to have a front page spread one Friday With a group photo to back up the story
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Just emailed the Observer.
Informing them of the Facebook campaign group, which has now nearly 150 members, and has united people across the political spectrum in their opposition to the proposal.
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20-09-2011, 09:53
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#149
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Beacon of light
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by garinda
I know some people think that they don't always do much good, but just checked and saw there wasn't a Facebook campaign for Hyndburn to remain a political constituency, so have just started one.
If you feel we should have a M.P. whose area more or less covers that of out borough council, and that our political power will diminish if we disappear, split between Burnley and Darwen/Haslingden, please support this campaign by 'liking' it.
It's certainly something the press will quote, if enough of us are against it.
This is nothing at all to do with political allegiance.
It's about our area not being seen as important, and the lack of power the proposed change would bring.
If you want to be represented by a M.P. for Hyndburn, please support the campaign that we remain a constituency down in Westminster.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/250832224959203/
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I hate this burgeoning trend of everyone using facebook.......advertisers do it for their competitions(I have complained to the companies about this, it excludes those who are not registered with facebook).......and it is frequently used for petitions now.
I can't access an oportunity to sign this petition as I am not a member of facebook....and do not wish to join just to sign petitions.
I know there are other options to register my disapproval, but surely having signatures in different places dilutes the impact of such means to get attention for the cause.
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20-09-2011, 09:59
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Re: Parliamentary Boundary Change
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Originally Posted by garinda
Just emailed the Observer.
Informing them of the Facebook campaign group, which has now nearly 150 members, and has united people across the political spectrum in their opposition to the proposal.
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Young Andrew has just telephoned me regarding this, he made a very valid point, its no good opposing the Commission's proposals if a viable alternative is in place
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