Parliamentary Boundary Change - Page 3

g jones · 28-06-2011, 10:55

Recent evidence from Experian I am led to believe has stated that there are 6.5m unregistered voters.

I asked the Council to put the Council tax register on the Eelctoral Roll last year and this produced 2,500 more voters in Hyndburn alone. I think there are 58,000 so that would be just short of 5% increase. Around 3%? of properties evade Council Tax so that would be upwards toward another 3% likiely to be missing.

garinda · 28-06-2011, 16:30

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Originally Posted by g jones

Recent evidence from Experian I am led to believe has stated that there are 6.5m unregistered voters.

Perhaps they're all the illegal immigrants, that came here after 1997.

shillelagh · 28-06-2011, 16:41

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

To be frank, I think that continually messing with boundaries through some arbitrary osmosis of population numbers is a fruitless exercise. Boroughs evolve over time, some will be bigger than others and some will have population decreases. Changing the boundaries will inevitably cost money and the people will resent the change, as they have been letting me know very vocally within Rishton. To use Rishton as an example, how can it make sense to have a Blackburn MP representing us but be part of Hyndburn Council?

For me, you can leave everything alone and save a few thousand quid.

i said that back in 1995 ... when they put greenfield and worsley ward in with hyndburn ... and yet left darwen in with rossendale ....

Bernard Dawson · 28-06-2011, 16:44

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

i said that back in 1995 ... when they put greenfield and worsley ward in with hyndburn ... and yet left darwen in with rossendale ....

Admit it, you've never looked back since Rising Bridge came into Hyndburn.

shillelagh · 28-06-2011, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

Admit it, you've never looked back since Rising Bridge came into Hyndburn.

i had no choice did i

..... can i just say i still get ... why are we in with hyndburn .... we are in rossendale .... when im out and about ....

jaysay · 28-06-2011, 17:29

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Originally Posted by g jones

Recent evidence from Experian I am led to believe has stated that there are 6.5m unregistered voters.

I asked the Council to put the Council tax register on the Eelctoral Roll last year and this produced 2,500 more voters in Hyndburn alone. I think there are 58,000 so that would be just short of 5% increase. Around 3%? of properties evade Council Tax so that would be upwards toward another 3% likiely to be missing.

It would appear that something as been going amiss for quite a long stretch of time then Graham, what are the answers

if there are people who can come up with these figures then surely something could be done about it or am I being Naive in thinking that

jaysay · 28-06-2011, 17:33

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

i had no choice did i

..... can i just say i still get ... why are we in with hyndburn .... we are in rossendale .... when im out and about ....

Of course you still live in Rossendale Jen its just they shift you once every general election for a period of about 5 or 6 weeks, which improves the place no end on a short term basis

Stumped · 28-06-2011, 17:52

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

If India declared was on Pakistan wot would happen to Bradford, & Burnley.
Retlaw

Bring it on . . . and hope that they introduce conscription for natives both home and abroad.

shillelagh · 28-06-2011, 17:58

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Of course you still live in Rossendale Jen its just they shift you once every general election for a period of about 5 or 6 weeks, which improves the place no end on a short term basis

you sure about that?

jaysay · 28-06-2011, 18:07

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

you sure about that?

Positive

Tealeaf · 28-06-2011, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

To be frank, I think that continually messing with boundaries through some arbitrary osmosis of population numbers is a fruitless exercise. Boroughs evolve over time, some will be bigger than others and some will have population decreases. Changing the boundaries will inevitably cost money and the people will resent the change, as they have been letting me know very vocally within Rishton. To use Rishton as an example, how can it make sense to have a Blackburn MP representing us but be part of Hyndburn Council?

For me, you can leave everything alone and save a few thousand quid.

Surely Ken, that is an argument for 'Rotten Boroughs', of the sort seen from the 12th century (Old Sarum) all the way through to the 19th century?

garinda · 28-06-2011, 18:46

I think the actual boundaries should be left as they are.

If populations in different constituencies are mis-matched, just carry out enforced mass evacuations.

A bit like Dame Shirley Porter did, gerrymandering in Westminster.

We'll keep Rishton.

Instead we'll just send Ken to top 'n' tail with Flashy.

jaysay · 28-06-2011, 18:48

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Originally Posted by garinda

I think the actual boundaries should be left as they are.

If populations in different constituencies are mis-matched, just carry out enforced mass evacuations.

A bit like Dame Shirley Porter did, gerrymandering in Westminster.

We'll keep Rishton.

Instead we'll just send Ken to top 'n' tail with Flashy.

What an excellent idea sir

Tealeaf · 28-06-2011, 18:53

Except Dame Shirley didn't play around with the constituency boundaries - she had no power to do so. She simply de-housed the riff-raff and shipped in the tory toffs.

garinda · 28-06-2011, 18:56

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Except Dame Shirley didn't play around with the constituency boundaries - she had no power to do so. She simply de-housed the riff-raff and shipped in the tory toffs.

I know.

Ethnic cleansing by any other name.

She's lucky to have escaped with her Tesco millions to Israel, rather than face war crime charges in the Hague.