Pasty Tax

gynn · 29-05-2012, 18:11

It's always amusing to see a Government minister, briefed up to his eyeballs by a spin doctor, coming on to Sky news to justify the U turn on pasty taxes and VAT on static caravans., and slowly unravelling before our eyes. No idea who he was, but he was one of those sharp suited Toryboy clones from a safe seat like Hertfordshire North South Central.

"It's a sign of strength that a Government is listening to the electorate when it proposes measures in the budget for consultation, and is able to react when it receives adverse reaction to those proposals" he purred, with an expression of self satisfaction that would have made Mother Theresa want to give him a slap.

Things went downhill after that.

"So the budget is merely a consultation document?' asked the interviewer..

"Er, no" said Toryboy with a faint look of horror, sensing the follow up questions on which he hadn't been briefed.

The interviewer sensed blood. "So given the universal opposition to the tax cuts for the rich, you will now be able to react to that and reverse the decision?'

Oh Dear. The spin doctors didn't cover that one..

Never mind. Revert to the old trusted soundbite about sorting out the mess Labour left us with. That always goes down well because nobody remotely knows what it means. Phew!

Panic over. Till the next time!

accyman · 29-05-2012, 19:12

ok so now they have solved the pasty crisis whats been done about giving £ billions of aid to other countries yet slashing our police force,crippling councils and cutting basically anything that benefits the UK?

i will never get my head around either government making cuts to our sevices yet manage to find money to send abroad with no expectation of been paid back.Hell teh amount of people we take in each year and provide for shoudl exceed what is expected of us

anyway i digress

pasty tax abandoned lets all celibrate .Is the bunting still up from teh queens visit we could use that ?

SamF · 29-05-2012, 19:16

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Originally Posted by accyman

ok so now they have solved the pasty crisis whats been done about giving £ billions of aid to other countries yet slashing our police force,crippling councils and cutting basically anything that benefits the UK?

i will never get my head around either government making cuts to our sevices yet manage to find money to send abroad with no expectation of been paid back.Hell teh amount of people we take in each year and provide for shoudl exceed what is expected of us

anyway i digress

pasty tax abandoned lets all celibrate .Is the bunting still up from teh queens visit we could use that ?

Devils Advocate - I'd rather my tax money was sent abroad and saved lives rather than stayed at home and was spent on special brew.

accyman · 29-05-2012, 19:27

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Originally Posted by SamF

Devils Advocate - I'd rather my tax money was sent abroad and saved lives rather than stayed at home and was spent on special brew.

you actually believe that if aid was stopped the money would go on special brew and not towards vital services like the nhs,police and local services?

mind you with this lot i woudnt put it past them

Wynonie Harris · 29-05-2012, 19:51

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Originally Posted by SamF

Devils Advocate - I'd rather my tax money was sent abroad and saved lives rather than stayed at home and was spent on special brew.

What? If the government cut overseas aid, they're going to buy us all special brew instead? Bring it on! I'll even stand outside the market hall and drink it for the added touch of authenticity!

lancsdave · 29-05-2012, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

What? If the government cut overseas aid, they're going to buy us all special brew instead? Bring it on! I'll even stand outside the market hall and drink it for the added touch of authenticity!

But that area is a no-alchohol area

Gordon Booth · 29-05-2012, 20:02

They speak with forked tongue!
If you check it you'll find there will be no VAT on pasties etc. which are hot because they've just come out of the oven.
However if they've been kept warm they will attract VAT! So if you want a hot pasty unless you time it as the oven is emptied it's cold pasty or pay VAT!
What a petty, childish,sneaky change to make.

david1 · 29-05-2012, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

They speak with forked tongue!
If you check it you'll find there will be no VAT on pasties etc. which are hot because they've just come out of the oven.
However if they've been kept warm they will attract VAT! So if you want a hot pasty unless you time it as the oven is emptied it's cold pasty or pay VAT!
What a petty, childish,sneaky change to make.

So if you went into a chippy you would pay VAT as the pies and pasties are kept warm .
But if you go to Gregg's , They let the pasty cool down you don't pay VAT ?

Wynonie Harris · 29-05-2012, 20:35

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Originally Posted by lancsdave

But that area is a no-alchohol area

Yeah, I've noticed.

Wynonie Harris · 29-05-2012, 20:40

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

They speak with forked tongue!
If you check it you'll find there will be no VAT on pasties etc. which are hot because they've just come out of the oven.
However if they've been kept warm they will attract VAT! So if you want a hot pasty unless you time it as the oven is emptied it's cold pasty or pay VAT!
What a petty, childish,sneaky change to make.

So let me get this straight, if I'm fortunate enough to walk into Greenhalghs when one of their excellent steak & ale pies has just come out of the oven, I'll pay £1.55 for it. But if I walk in 15 minutes later I'll pay £2 for it...and this lot are running the country?

Tealeaf · 29-05-2012, 21:02

What happens if you flog a pasty with a few chillis in it, say up to 10,000,000 on the Scoville Scale? That's enough to burn your arse out about 5 times over. Will that attract VAT or not? And if it does, will it be at 5 or 20%?

spignific · 05-06-2012, 01:55

know this aint pasty tax but they should tax that mannings shop on peel street..give you only half the ham and salad that the same chain one in ossy/union road does.nearly 3 quid, you having a laugh

accyman · 06-06-2012, 12:15

it was mentioned on have i got news for you that cameron has U-turned on 34 policies since getting into power

this figure becomes 35 if you include their no U-turn policey

jaysay · 06-06-2012, 17:35

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Originally Posted by accyman

it was mentioned on have i got news for you that cameron has U-turned on 34 policies since getting into power

this figure becomes 35 if you include their no U-turn policey

No that would only be U Turns in Private Eye accyman

accyman · 06-06-2012, 18:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay

No that would only be U Turns in Private Eye accyman

nope i definatly recall cameron saying his party would not do any u-turns on policey.

i dont know what the spin is on it though it maybe that they have veered back on themsleves or boomeranged on a few policies