Police Probe Vote Rigging Complaints - Page 12

Royboy39 · 05-06-2008, 21:10

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Originally Posted by g jones

You have at various times talked about your life. No problem. On here and openly to others. I am not here to talk about you or your circumstances personally. As a Labour person I support fundamentally the welfare state to help those in need. You get some who don't appreciate it and thrown it all back. I like to know why it is is no good or the Labour Party is no good in persuing a welfare state? It is not a trick question, nor is it personal.

And we have met, you just don't remember. You were right and I was wrong.

Graham................as a non political bystander I wonder why you take this crap on board?

g jones · 05-06-2008, 21:24

Thanks Roy, because only by discussing things openly will a better version of the truth come out. Not my version, but a better version, a better democracy, better decisions. And if no-one else is prepared to a put a foot forward, I will. I am last on the list of important things. Without clearing the air, politicians will go on telling porkies, filling their ego's and fooling the public (defrauding the the voting TGBOT). My time in politics has always been about ending this culture. Ring any of the other 12 Labour Councillors (or residents in Peel that know me) and see, of my time, if this is true. End of.

Gayle · 05-06-2008, 21:29

Graham there is no such things as a 'better' version of the truth - nor can there be a worse version of the truth. There is the truth simple as that!

andrewb · 05-06-2008, 23:21

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Originally Posted by g jones

Thanks Roy, because only by discussing things openly will a better version of the truth come out. Not my version, but a better version, a better democracy, better decisions. And if no-one else is prepared to a put a foot forward, I will. I am last on the list of important things. Without clearing the air, politicians will go on telling porkies, filling their ego's and fooling the public (defrauding the the voting TGBOT). My time in politics has always been about ending this culture. Ring any of the other 12 Labour Councillors (or residents in Peel that know me) and see, of my time, if this is true. End of.

I am happy to tell the truth, I dont care what party people are from, it makes no difference who you are, or what your background is, I am happy to represent anyone. Would you like to support the truth, and support me for council?

cashman · 05-06-2008, 23:24

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Originally Posted by andrewb

I am happy to tell the truth, I dont care what party people are from, it makes no difference who you are, or what your background is, I am happy to represent anyone. Would you like to support the truth, and support me for council?

only if it fits with your version of it, n as for representing anyone, i feel sure most folk can see the depth now.

BERNADETTE · 05-06-2008, 23:28

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Originally Posted by andrewb

I am happy to tell the truth, I dont care what party people are from, it makes no difference who you are, or what your background is, I am happy to represent anyone. Would you like to support the truth, and support me for council?

Just a couple of questions, if you were really so angry at what you say you heard why has it taken you all this time to say anything about it? Also why the need to air it on a public forum?? Well out of order IMHO

andrewb · 05-06-2008, 23:29

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Originally Posted by cashman

only if it fits with your version of it, n as for representing anyone, i feel sure most folk can see the depth now.

There is truth, and truth. There can't be a 'version' of truth, that'd be a lie I'd guess. I don't support lies. I know I am a Conservative, but if they blatantly lied, I would call it, I would say it is wrong. If someone comes up to me and gives evidence of the local Conservatives being dishonest, I would happily, publicly, denounce them. No doubt about that, principles are more important than party allegiance, I'm sure you agree with that cashy.

cashman · 05-06-2008, 23:33

oh well if yer big on principals forget the locals, denounce the MEP.

andrewb · 05-06-2008, 23:42

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Originally Posted by cashman

oh well if yer big on principals forget the locals, denounce the MEP.

I already have in a pub earlier! But yes I completely agree with you. Its disgusting. Not acceptable. It is the reason for disillusion in Politics.

cashman · 05-06-2008, 23:58

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Originally Posted by andrewb

I already have in a pub earlier! But yes I completely agree with you. Its disgusting. Not acceptable. It is the reason for disillusion in Politics.

its one of the many reasons why i and many others are disilluded with politics n aint meaning just one party, genuinly think its gone from bad to worse over last 25 yrs or so n all partys are guilty.

andrewb · 06-06-2008, 01:21

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Originally Posted by cashman

its one of the many reasons why i and many others are disilluded with politics n aint meaning just one party, genuinly think its gone from bad to worse over last 25 yrs or so n all partys are guilty.

Yes certainly agree with you, and the voter turnout at recent elections backs it up. We need more transparency, and honesty in our system for people to become engaged again. It's all ok me believing in that, me enacting that, but I'm just an ordinary citizen, we need the parliamentarians from all parties to realise it.

mani · 06-06-2008, 03:30

all we need now are the jets, the sharks, the corleones, the barzini's and the bride from kill bill and the feuding would be complete.

steeljack · 06-06-2008, 04:00

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Originally Posted by mani

all we need now are the jets, the sharks, the corleones, the barzini's and the bride from kill bill and the feuding would be complete.

so now we know what turns Mani on .... tragic gang-banging Italian musicals ......they have a name for folks like that .......they call them Opera Queens ,

sorry dude , couldn't resist

sorry for wander