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Morecambe Ex Pat · 30-01-2009, 14:32

I would not like to see it made legal either but I think certain amount of tolerance should be shown. Wasting Police time dealing with someone with a small quantity is a waste of resources.

jaysay · 30-01-2009, 17:04

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

Far more people are addicted to painkillers than cannabis, and their bodies are more damaged by those painkillers
The silent addiction to everyday painkillers | Mail Online

That very strong painkiller that you say you take, Jaysay, will be an 'opium derivative' - which translates to 'having the chemical constituents of opium' but more costly because it is manufactured and sold to the Nhs at an exhorbitant cost by pharmacutical companies.
If you had to pay for those painkillers you may well find that it would work out cheaper to grow poppies

Those tablets are like you say, DF118s Margaret, as for growing poppies, I ain't got a garden and I think it would be give away if I had to use the little strip of ground outside my palatial abode on Mallard

garinda · 30-01-2009, 19:26

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Supprising as it sounds I dont want cannabis to be legalised.

I would go for decramanilisation (SP).
In my view rules like this would be better.

You can possess a certain amount on your person in Public.
You can possess a larger amount kept on your premises.
You can cultivate a certain number of plants for Personall use only.
You cannot smoke it in a public area

All the smack heads I know also started of on the drink - Fact.

Why would you not legalise it though, seeing as you proclaim it's benefits?

I know people who take it for medical as well as social reasons, and they are good upstanding citizens.

I also see as generation of work shy layabouts every morning on the Jerermy Kyle programme, who also smoke it, and it doesn't seem to benefit them much.

***Mr D*** · 31-01-2009, 00:48

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Originally Posted by garinda

Why would you not legalise it though, seeing as you proclaim it's benefits?

I would not legalise it as could be abused, and then become a problem, more just let those who use it for whatever reason do so for personal use without fear of prossicution. (SP)

Anyone who can benefit medically from using cannabis should be allowed, without being a law breaker.

garinda · 31-01-2009, 00:54

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

I would not legalise it as could be abused, and then become a problem, more just let those who use it for whatever reason do so for personal use without fear of prossicution. (SP)

Anyone who can benefit medically from using cannabis should be allowed, without being a law breaker.

It could still be abused if it was decriminalised, which it more or less is at present, in that prosecutions for personal possesion are few and far between.

Could you give more details how legalising it would lead to more further abuse than there is at present?

Mancie · 31-01-2009, 01:17

The law on cannabis was changed the other day from class C to class B... but still states that 1st offence for possesion is a caution..upgraded to a court procedings for supply and gaining income from selling... even at that stage the court guidelines are to fine the offender.
If you condsider smoking cannabis as drug abuse then to legalise it would definatley increase the use of cannabis but increase Goverment income through high taxes on the substance...but then just as tobbaco there will be people eager to undercut by selling it cheaper without tax.. so back to square one!

garinda · 31-01-2009, 09:33

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Originally Posted by Mancie

The law on cannabis was changed the other day from class C to class B... but still states that 1st offence for possesion is a caution..upgraded to a court procedings for supply and gaining income from selling... even at that stage the court guidelines are to fine the offender.
If you condsider smoking cannabis as drug abuse then to legalise it would definatley increase the use of cannabis but increase Goverment income through high taxes on the substance...but then just as tobbaco there will be people eager to undercut by selling it cheaper without tax.. so back to square one!

Even though cannabis has recently been reclassified from Class C to Class B, it still sounds highly unlikely that someone would face court proceedings unless they were supplying it.

Cannabis | Home Office

I'm still puzzled as to why some people think it would be 'abused' more if it was legalised, than it is now.

SPUGGIE J · 31-01-2009, 09:37

If all those that like a bit of weed skunk black soapbar etc were taken to court and even jailed we could fill the prisons twice over. It is a habit that like smoking has a fair wack of bods in its grip and with more serious damage in the long term.

cashman · 31-01-2009, 09:51

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Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

If all those that like a bit of weed skunk black soapbar etc were taken to court and even jailed we could fill the prisons twice over. It is a habit that like smoking has a fair wack of bods in its grip and with more serious damage in the long term.

same with drinking spug, anyone does it to excess is likely to get serious damage.

SPUGGIE J · 31-01-2009, 10:06

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Originally Posted by cashman

same with drinking spug, anyone does it to excess is likely to get serious damage.

Well I wont be one of the damaged drinkers. Aint had any since the meet before crimbo.

And will be at least 2 weeks before I get another taster.

***Mr D*** · 31-01-2009, 10:31

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Originally Posted by garinda

Even though cannabis has recently been reclassified from Class C to Class B, it still sounds highly unlikely that someone would face court proceedings unless they were supplying it.

Cannabis | Home Office

I'm still puzzled as to why some people think it would be 'abused' more if it was legalised, than it is now.

Because if it was legalised it could result in more people who wouldnt of normal used it to give it a try, Im not after encouraging people to use cannabis, just those that do for personal reason be free from prosicution. (SP)

garinda · 31-01-2009, 10:47

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Because if it was legalised it could result in more people who wouldnt of normal used it to give it a try, Im not after encouraging people to use cannabis, just those that do for personal reason be free from prosicution. (SP)

But they'd also be free from prosecution if it was legalised, and since it's current usage seems quite well spread, and it's as harmless as you claim, what's the problem if more people tried it?

You seem to want to have your cake and eat it too, free from any responsibility, and taxation, that legalisation would bring.

***Mr D*** · 31-01-2009, 12:29

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Originally Posted by garinda

But they'd also be free from prosecution if it was legalised, and since it's current usage seems quite well spread, and it's as harmless as you claim, what's the problem if more people tried it?

You seem to want to have your cake and eat it too, free from any responsibility, and taxation, that legalisation would bring.

Where have I clamed its harmless?

How would legalisation bring responsability?

Im not against legalisation, I just dont think it would be the best way forward.

Speedy · 31-01-2009, 23:29

Im against legalistion, its expensive enough as it is without paying tax on it

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Tax man takes enough out my wage as it is

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Benipete · 31-01-2009, 23:36

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You seem to want to have your cake and eat it too, free from any responsibility, and taxation, that legalisation would bring.

only if It's Space Cake.