Politics.

[Taggy]

Originally Posted by jaysay

That would be hard to quantify today Taggy, the context that Powell used at the time of the speech would have a far different meaning today and the arguments would take an whole new meaning in today's climate

.....which perhaps gives even more credence to the message he was trying to get across!!!

Best Regards - Taggy

[Gordie]

Originally Posted by Taggy

Would be very interesting to see what the percentage would be today!


Best Regards - Taggy

If the poll was taken for the indigenous population only I would guess it would be very similar or even a higher percentage but I agree it would be very interesting

[Gordie]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Were you even born then, don't think you were one of the 74%

What has being one of the 74% or even being born then got to do with the quote you are replying to

I think you would even disagree with yourself for the sake of it.
You remind me of a relative of mine. If he ever would have entered a monastery or a abbey for over an hour you can bet the nuns and the monks would be in total disagreement with each other

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Gordie

If the poll was taken for the indigenous population only....

So you'd only be interested in the poll results of the Celts, and disregard the views of the Angles and the Saxons?

[blazey]

Life would be pretty boring if we all agreed, wouldn't it

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Eric

... and don't forget boiling in oil and burning at the stake

We need to think of carbon neutral methods of killing people these days.

[SPUGGIE J]

Originally Posted by Neil

We need to think of carbon neutral methods of killing people these days.

That and how to recycle the parts. I am sure if we got rid of all the dissidents there would be plenty of parts for transplant.

[SPUGGIE J]

Well I was a bit confused over this politics lark and was made worse by this from Wiki;

Politics is the process by which groups of people make decisions. The term is generally applied to behavior within civil governments, but politics has been observed in all human group interactions, including corporate, academic, and religious institutions. It consists of "social relations involving authority or power"[1] and refers to the regulation of a political unit,[2] and to the methods and tactics used to formulate and apply policy.[3]

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Gordie

What has being one of the 74% or even being born then got to do with the quote you are replying to

I think you would even disagree with yourself for the sake of it.
You remind me of a relative of mine. If he ever would have entered a monastery or a abbey for over an hour you can bet the nuns and the monks would be in total disagreement with each other

Don't flatter yourself Gordie I could be nothing like anybody related to you, I don't fall out with people, only bigots like you

[Gordie]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Don't flatter yourself Gordie I could be nothing like anybody related to you, I don't fall out with people, only bigots like you

There is also a name for your type.Sympathiser.
In all your quotes that I have read where there is an issue conflicting with the interests of the British Goverment you defend.
Hopefully theres not to many of your type in the forces

[SPUGGIE J]

The problems that Ireland both north and south have had are to some extent self perpetuating. The thing is staying in Scotland I see a form of it as well and I find it disgusting. Politics and religion should never mix as there has been more conflict because of this than any other reason. People I know who serve in the forces have hope for the future and in their opinion its re-education that is needed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and belief but to be made to suffer for that is wrong. Can you put forward a conflict whether military are civillian that dosnt have religion egging it on in some way?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by SPUGGIE J

The problems that Ireland both north and south have had are to some extent self perpetuating. The thing is staying in Scotland I see a form of it as well and I find it disgusting. Politics and religion should never mix as there has been more conflict because of this than any other reason. People I know who serve in the forces have hope for the future and in their opinion its re-education that is needed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and belief but to be made to suffer for that is wrong. Can you put forward a conflict whether military are civillian that dosnt have religion egging it on in some way?

I agree.

I lived in Scotland for three years, and was shocked at how much religion is part of politics up there, all fuelled by the press.

I never expeienced any overt racism, in the cosmopolitan West End of Glasgow, and quickly silenced any attempt to find out which 'side' I was from, and my religious background, by saying I didn't support either of the Old Firm clubs, but Queen of the South.

Mind you, it was a bit like that in Liverpool, when I was at college there.

Perhaps you get people obsessed with religious divides anywhere there's a ferry terminal.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Gordie

There is also a name for your type.Sympathiser.
In all your quotes that I have read where there is an issue conflicting with the interests of the British Goverment you defend.
Hopefully theres not to many of your type in the forces

And what forces are you a member of the IRA, and me defend the British Government, your having a laugh, now your get bloody stupid. Our forces are not fighting Muslims they are fighting religious fanatics, which is a very big difference, but what you want everybody to do is paint every one with the same brush, if its Muslim its a terrorist, its like saying everybody living in Ireland are dickheads like you

[Gordie]

Originally Posted by jaysay

And what forces are you a member of the IRA, and me defend the British Government, your having a laugh, now your get bloody stupid. Our forces are not fighting Muslims they are fighting religious fanatics, which is a very big difference, but what you want everybody to do is paint every one with the same brush, if its Muslim its a terrorist, its like saying everybody living in Ireland are dickheads like you

Your off your rocker you horrible little man.I am not saying nothing like what you are suggesting.You could not be further from the truth with some of your assumptions.If our forces are not fighting Muslim fanatics and there supposedly none aggresive supporters who are they fighting then the Russians.Its stupid folk like you who are to blame for the state
in which Britain is today.
You horrible horrible little man you Accrington Burnley Blackburn Bradford
have some of the lowest wages and house prices in the all of the UK and
your calling me a dickhead your having a laugh you sympathiser

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Gordie

You horrible horrible little man you Accrington Burnley Blackburn Bradford
have some of the lowest wages and house prices in the all of the UK and
your calling me a dickhead your having a laugh you sympathiser

I don't think that analogy holds much water.

Belgravia, Mayfair, and Kensington, is full of people from many Asian countries, yet has some of the most expensive real estate on the planet.

Cornwall has a very small immigrant population, and is suprisingly one of the poorest counties in England, with one of the lowest Gross Disposal Household Income per capita in the country, and that is reflected in the relatively low value of property there.

For the reason this area has a relatively low property value, if £100,000 for a typical terraced house can be considered low value, you'd have to look back to why so many houses were built for the immigrants who flooded in to the area seeking a better life for themselves and their families...in the nineteenth century.