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15-06-2008, 20:34
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Sorry JB, I'm trying to focus on EVERY country in the EU and ALL possibilities that could happen in the future, not the past. Economic unity avoids many problems and I think it is worthwhile that we stay within that, with or without the Euro. I am not concerned with WWII, I studied history at A level, it bored me and didn't even go into this topic, no political interest whatsoever on an international level, so I am just going of what I have learned from EU law, and they don't bother going into hitler and what he did, because the law doesn't concern individuals, it concerns all.
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Do you not think that this is the reason that (I can't say the majority) a hell of a lot of people are against the ratification and do not want or agree with laws created by unelected glory seekers in Brussels.
'Going into Hitler' as you call it, interested or not, was one of the reasons
you are now allowed to go about your business unhindered.
World War II, boring or not, is something you should study in depth.
Maybe if you did take notice of our history, you would know where the response from a lot of your peers coming from.
Respect to your seniors is something you will learn very quickly if you enter Chambers.
Spontainious reply to serious topics could backfire.
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15-06-2008, 21:19
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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1. (David Davies) Does the current round of mud slinging alter your views?
2. (EU Debate) In or Out? Why?
3. (Local Politics) Would you change the party of choice if given the chance?
4. (National Politics) can you say that you like this particular politician. Who and why?
5. (Transport and Carbon Footprint) On your next holiday, what would be your choice. Fly - Drive - Swim?
6. (Public Transport) What would be your choice of transport on your next trip to London, Blackpool or the Lakes?
Long list, I agree but seems to be the topics in focus at the moment.
Let's put the world to rights......There could be a lurking politician in our mid'st taking this on board?
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1 David Davies is paving the way for him to be next PM.
2Out - we went in as trading nations only,that was all we voted for.
3as they are all in the buisness of buying votes it doesn't matter.
4who and who??
5Plane sailing!
6London no plans - Blackpool car to the airport - Lakes no airport,train only goes to Windermere and theres only one lake so it must be the car
Plane to Alicante or Al Altet to you
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15-06-2008, 21:45
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Plane to Alicante or Al Altet to you
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Alicante will do or ALC.
If you asked for a ticket to Al Altet you may finish up in Northern Mongolia.
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15-06-2008, 21:48
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
Royboy, do you plan on putting your own answers to yhe questions you posed to us ?
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15-06-2008, 21:50
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Royboy, do you plan on putting your own answers to yhe questions you posed to us ?
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Yes.............when the time is right.
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16-06-2008, 00:05
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Originally Posted by Royboy39
Do you not think that this is the reason that (I can't say the majority) a hell of a lot of people are against the ratification and do not want or agree with laws created by unelected glory seekers in Brussels.
'Going into Hitler' as you call it, interested or not, was one of the reasons
you are now allowed to go about your business unhindered.
World War II, boring or not, is something you should study in depth.
Maybe if you did take notice of our history, you would know where the response from a lot of your peers coming from.
Respect to your seniors is something you will learn very quickly if you enter Chambers.
Spontainious reply to serious topics could backfire.
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I got a B grade in World War II history at A level, and I still take an interest in it but more from a legal perspective rather than a conscientious one.
Respect my elders but not challenge them? I might as well give up in the legal profession whilst I am ahead if thats the way you think it is done.
This wasn't a spontaneous reply either, like I said, I have studied both history and EU law and formed my opinions based on academic opinion. It may not be the majority opinion but what is life without a bit of debate?
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16-06-2008, 11:53
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Respect my elders but not challenge them? I might as well give up in the legal profession whilst I am ahead if thats the way you think it is done.
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Did I say that? or is it your academic reasoning that made you think I said that?
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16-06-2008, 14:19
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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I got a B grade in World War II history at A level, and I still take an interest in it but more from a legal perspective rather than a conscientious one.
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Which one is correct, the above or below
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I am not concerned with WWII, I studied history at A level, it bored me and didn't even go into this topic
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16-06-2008, 14:20
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Did I say that? or is it your academic reasoning that made you think I said that?
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Come, come Royboy39, surely you must be aware by now that some people put words in your mouth because they can’t present a counter view to yours, but feel compelled to post something.
Now, how about posting your own answers to your questions. I am interested if no one else is.
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16-06-2008, 14:22
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Which one is correct, the above or below
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Nicely spotted. You beat me to it.
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16-06-2008, 18:38
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Which one is correct, the above or below
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I studied Hitler, Nazi's and WWII in regards to the actual war itself.
The 'topic' I mentioned in the bottom quote was referring to the development of the EU.
I never even turned up to my history lessons, so I only got the B based on my own interest from outside of college. I'm sure everyone knows of my fascination with the time period though, I went through a long era of being called a nazi on here for it.
Hope that helps.
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17-06-2008, 11:11
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
The big question here is people's lack of involvment in politics , thats to say how many poeple bother to vote in elections, National Local and EU ....
Go on, next time your in the pub or out for a meal just ask your mates if they know who thier MP, thier councillor and indeed thier MEP are?
I'm not trying to patronise anyone here, cause in truth I don't know the names of the last two for myself. But the big issue here is how have we become so apathetic as a democratic society? Look at Zimbabwe ?
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17-06-2008, 11:17
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
Blazey a Nazi... Heard it all now
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17-06-2008, 15:42
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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Originally Posted by archiveuk
The big question here is people's lack of involvment in politics , thats to say how many poeple bother to vote in elections, National Local and EU ....
Go on, next time your in the pub or out for a meal just ask your mates if they know who thier MP, thier councillor and indeed thier MEP
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I don't know where you live, but I certainly know who my M.P. and my councillors are. Both locally and nationally our representatives are fairly high profile, and you'd have to live in a bubble not to know at least one of the people who represents you politically.
As for the M.E.P. I happily don't recognise him, or her.
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17-06-2008, 15:53
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Re: Politics -This should make interesting reading?
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As for the M.E.P. I happily don't recognise him, or her.
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I doubt if one in ten people could name their Euro M.P.....young idiots like Cyfr and Blazey could possibly do so, but who gives a dam anyway? MEPs are a bunch of spineless, useless pillocks whose only purpose is to line their own and their families pockets. A 100 kiloton nuclear detonation over Brussels would not go amiss.
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