Politics u make me laugh!!!

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Both! When the were brought home after being given a clip round the ear from the copper, the mother usually gave them one too and then said those words that struck fear into every child "You wait til your Dad gets home"!

Precisely lol. Now the parents get sued too

[accymel]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

Nowadays the copper will get sued and the culrpit will get tons of compensation. Parental issues or totally inadequate government policy ?

Erm both & with Mr C going on about this load of tosh he clearly has no idea of parenting issues nor policy to solve it so as most of them try to live in the past!!

Btw cops scare me so never got chance of clip round the ear but they dont scare the youth of today

[accymel]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Some peoples relationships can withstand that though, and fair play to them if they are strong enough to stick together through something like that for the kids. If the can't, and it would be detrimental to the kids, then of course they should part.

Oh dear for the sake of the kids bit again, the kids grow up blaming themselves for keeping unhappy parents together Mind u a good few decades ago there were more morals & society was much stricter on acceptance than today - so the shame alone would keep legs cross or flys zipped in presence of temptation

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

HE HE HE! I know it's look coffee mornings at mine

PMSL!!! yeh thats true i missed my appointment this morning so heres the online version hehehehehehehe

[Tinkerbelle]

Originally Posted by accymel

Oh dear for the sake of the kids bit again, the kids grow up blaming themselves for keeping unhappy parents together

The kids should never have that burden placed on their shoulders. Depending on their age they shouldn't be privvy to to what goes on in adults relationships. You think sitting a child down and saying "oh mumy or daddy has left us cus they're screwing someone else" is easier for a child to deal with? Break ups affect childroom the most, it's as simple as that, they should be protected from the heartache as much as possible

[accymel]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

The kids should never have that burden placed on their shoulders. Depending on their age they shouldn't be privvy to to what goes on in adults relationships. You think sitting a child down and saying "oh mumy or daddy has left us cus they're screwing someone else" is easier for a child to deal with? Break ups affect childroom the most, it's as simple as that, they should be protected from the heartache as much as possible

Very true Thing is kids are very quick & intuitive - they might not understand the ins & outs - even if they are kept in the dark about it or dont know what the problem is - they actually know theres a problem

[Tinkerbelle]

LOL! Yeah I hope so ...... especially when one of the parents is still missing after a few months

With the exception of a relationship breaking up through violence, both parents should make an effort to be together for the sake of the children. When all said and done no child ever asked to be born.

[accymel]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

LOL! Yeah I hope so ...... especially when one of the parents is still missing after a few months

PMSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

With the exception of a relationship breaking up through violence, both parents should make an effort to be together for the sake of the children. When all said and done no child ever asked to be born.

MMmm i'll agree with some & disagree with some there, for the sake of children mmm grrr again im one of those children whose parents did & that still dont cut it with me because kids who get that shoved in their faces feel responsible that cos of them their parents have to stay together & be unhappy thus the environment is unhappy. A happy loving home whether lone parent, couple or step parentage should be the main thing !!

Do right be your kid[s] & they'll do right by u when u is old - like shove u in a nicer owd folks home

[maccy]

very true HAPPINESS beeing the key if your not happy it rubs off on your kids. It took me i while to realise that my son will always luv me as his dad and his mum as his mum but screeming and shouting at each other and ill feeling u cant hide it from them and sometimes that can be wose than the break up. They are more resilliant than u think!!!

[maccy]

Originally Posted by accymel

Sorry im an old cynic been there & worn the tshirt mate, happy perfect marriage with a selfish cheating drunken lazy uncaring violent immoral {delete where appropiate] partner - no such thing

AND THATS JUST THE GOOD POINTS

[Tinkerbelle]

Originally Posted by maccy

but screeming and shouting at each other and ill feeling u cant hide it from them and sometimes that can be wose than the break up.

Sadly though the truth is that the arguments quite often still continue after a break up. The child(ren) then get used in a little game by the parents of trying to get one up on each either. So, sometimes it's a lose/lose situation for the kiddies caught in the middle

Originally Posted by maccy

They are more resilliant than u think!!!

There's also a lot of children out there that have been emotionally scarred because of their parents break up.

[accymel]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Sadly though the truth is that the arguments quite often still continue after a break up. The child(ren) then get used in a little game by the parents of trying to get one up on each either. So, sometimes it's a lose/lose situation for the kiddies caught in the middle

True, problem is either situation aint good be it in the relationship or out unless the parents put aside their selfishness & concentrate on the kids or better still make better judgements before having kids

[accymel]

Originally Posted by maccy

AND THATS JUST THE GOOD POINTS

Bloody hell bro u are as cynical as me - cant think why tho

[Tinkerbelle]

Originally Posted by accymel

unless the parents put aside their selfishness & concentrate on the kids or better still make better judgements before having kids

That is my point exactly, but I didn't want to word it like that, I didn't want it to look like I was saying that people who have kids and seperate are selfish, every relationship is different ..... but yes there are some selfish people out there who should put their kids needs before their own.

[accymel]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

That is my point exactly, but I didn't want to word it like that, I didn't want it to look like I was saying that people who have kids and seperate are selfish, every relationship is different ..... but yes there are some selfish people out there who should put their kids needs before their own.

ah well i did it for ya pmsl

That i do agree with

[cashman]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

It's not that long ago that we had a quick fix of being clipped round the ear by a copper if you broke the law. Nowadays the copper will get sued and the culrpit will get tons of compensation. Parental issues or totally inadequate government policy ?

now were gettin somewhere, its a total breakdown of respect and discipline, far more than what that tory plank is saying.as well as the home, school,police, NO ONE has the right to discipline any more! who took that away? the one parent families. its far more complicated than that simpleton spouts.and if theres no discipline theres no respect.